30NL: QQ, Deep & OOP Play Along

[AZplaya]

I would lead for $20. If Villian shoves I would call, though I won't be happy about it. I can't fold an overpair against a 46/14 with this much money in the pot.

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I would lead for $20. If Villian shoves I would call, though I won't be happy about it. I can't fold an overpair against a 46/14 with this much money in the pot.

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What is your default hand range vs. a 46/14 that 3 bets and then calls a 4 bet in position?

[wingchunflush]

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[wingchunflush]

I lead for about 20 as well. I think this is AK a lot of times, and we will take the side pot right here.

[wingchunflush]

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if you dont want to get re raised and have to call his all in dont re raise, I call here. See a flop and go from there

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I really disagree with this...don't let a villian to see the flop this cheap w 200BB stacks behind just cuz you don't want to face a push.

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Agreed.. why are we so scared to reraise here? It's not like the villain is running 8/5. His preflop stats indicate he's not very positionally aware so his 3betting our UTG raise doesn't mean as much. For everyone who said call, do you really think we're behind here that often? If you do, then how do you play it on a 25T rainbow flop? His AA or KK would still be ahead. If we are check/folding if an A or K hits, why not reraise preflop to get more money in while we are ahead?

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Looking at this hand again I have changed my stance. My earlier reply was for the guy who didnt want to fold to a raise, if you dont want to take the chance of getting moved off this hand then just call. Thinking about this guys numbers though I would re raise as well . Sometimes I will just call because he will probably call with AJ+ and will see a flop this mixes up our play and saves us a little money if an Ace hits the flop, this isnt my default play though.

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So everyone likes a bet here? We'll move along if that is the consensus.

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Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.15/$0.30 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $6.90
BB: $20.90
Hero (UTG): $66.50
MP: $45.55
CO: $55.45
BTN: $15.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.05</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $3.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $2.85, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, CO calls $9.00, SB calls all-in for $3.90

Flop: ($31.20) (3 Players - 1 All-In)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $5.00</font>, <font color="blue"> Hero?</font>

So I didn't bet, now what?

[NL Newbie]

3bet or dont w/e.

Villans often smooth call KK/AA when deep move with caution.

You can chck call, then chk fold turn. Or lead out/fold to raise.

Its a tough choice.

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Alright, we'll finish this up. So do we love it, hate it? I thought it was a pretty tough hand altogether and each street is debatable. I'd love to hear some more opinions.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.15/$0.30 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $6.90
BB: $20.90
Hero (UTG): $66.50
MP: $45.55
CO: $55.45
BTN: $15.95

Preflop: Hero is dealt (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.05</font>, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $3.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $2.85, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, CO calls $9.00, SB calls all-in for $3.90

Flop: ($31.20) (3 Players - 1 All-In)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $5.00</font>, Hero calls $5.00

Turn: ($41.20) (3 Players - 1 All-In)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $13.00</font>, Hero folds

[UFGatorGuy]

I really don't like how you played this hand. You showed a ton of weakness by checking the flop and turn, of course villain is going to bet. Once you reraise preflop and villain smooth calls, it looks like AA and KK are less likely. A 42/14 doesn't usually get tricky with big hands like that. It looks like villain has AK and is trying to buy his way out of trouble, albeit badly. I would have led out on the flop for $20 (it's extremely inconsistent to 4bet preflop and check a non-scary flop like that, which would have been good if you had tried to CRAI) and called a shove. Your line looks really weak-tight to me.