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Old 09-24-2007, 09:17 AM
n4rf n4rf is offline
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Default Folding QQ preflop - Too conservative?

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SB ($10.30)
BB ($19.25)
UTG ($4.60)
MP ($9.85)
CO ($61.05)
Hero ($11)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $0.35</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $19.35 (All-In)</font>, CO folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $-15.35

Only had 15 hands on the player stat wise and they were average stats. Something like 20/15, but I couldn't look at the stats since it was only 15 hands.

I figured he probably pushed to try to get AK, or any big pocket pair to call and I assumed he had at least KK or AA (Maybe AK himself)
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:19 AM
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Default Re: Folding QQ preflop - Too conservative?

I'd call. At $10 NL with no hands on someone he could be trying to rickroll u

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Old 09-24-2007, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: Folding QQ preflop - Too conservative?

I like the fold.
@ 10NL i think this is AA / KK a lot of the time;
it's often: "oh [censored] I got AA how do I play this"
either: "I slow play, muhahhahaha"
or: "AAAA, push and hope he calls"
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:39 AM
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Default Re: Folding QQ preflop - Too conservative?

good fold - Mostly its AK/AA/KK so QQ is -EV. Plus training yourself to fold these big hands pf can only be a good thing if you wanna move up.
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:45 AM
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Default Re: Folding QQ preflop - Too conservative?

Have you guys played $10NL? Against a unknown I'm definately calling here and beating his jacks. So glad I cleared .01/.02 and am at $50nl in 7 weeks now cuz of my secret uber knowledge of how teh fish think.
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: Folding QQ preflop - Too conservative?

The way I see it is the chance he had AK/KK/AA was much larger than him holding a lower pocket pair or maybe even AQ. I wouldn't always assume JJ vs an unknown considering the fact that I was the reraiser to the original raise.
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Old 09-24-2007, 10:45 AM
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Default Re: Folding QQ preflop - Too conservative?

[ QUOTE ]
I like the fold.
@ 10NL i think this is AA / KK a lot of the time;
it's often: "oh [censored] I got AA how do I play this"
either: "I slow play, muhahhahaha"
or: "AAAA, push and hope he calls"

[/ QUOTE ]

I'd be more likely to call that push than a please call me raise, especially from unknown types at that limit.

Mack
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: Folding QQ preflop - Too conservative?

I donīt see how we can fold here. I see people shove midpairs all the time because they suck. I would call here and be pretty happy about it. If we had some sort of read that this only ever is KK+ and maybe AK that would change things a lot obv.
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: Folding QQ preflop - Too conservative?

A fold here with no solid reads would be terrible, IMO. Villain could be squeezing with a mid-PP or another hand that we have killed. We're ahead of his range here.
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