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Old 09-21-2007, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: tricky QQ hand. play along 1k nl

bet turn
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Old 09-21-2007, 05:05 PM
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Default Re: tricky QQ hand. play along 1k nl

He is unlikely to be bluffing with AK, AQ kind of hands, but why wouldn't he be betting with JJ here?
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:46 PM
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i think the optimal line is c/c turn, c/c river. his range is like monster 25%, something retarted 75%
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:56 PM
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Default Re: tricky QQ hand. play along 1k nl

Bet turn. As played, easy fold.
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Old 09-21-2007, 08:30 PM
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Bet turn. As played, easy fold.

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he bets turn close to 100% with a range I am a favorite against.
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Old 09-21-2007, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: tricky QQ hand. play along 1k nl

so with the remaining %, he bets with a range you are a dog to? I don't mind the turn check, but i don't see the point in a cr. I prefer calling and leading the river

EDIT: Actually I do see the point, but against his sort of range i think calling and leading river is better
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:18 AM
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Default Re: tricky QQ hand. play along 1k nl

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Bet turn. As played, easy fold.

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he bets turn close to 100% with a range I am a favorite against.

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how much of that is calling a raise? its prb more likely you can get 2 streets of value if you do the betting versus times when he has JJ and you randomly donk and river Q or something like that
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Old 09-22-2007, 05:22 AM
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he reraises to 450 (lol) fold here?

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Hello TT
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Old 09-22-2007, 05:25 AM
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Default Re: tricky QQ hand. play along 1k nl

And i also don't see a point of check/raise.He is often on pure air (not AK) and has 2-3 outs or drawing dead.

Are you c/r to protect your hand?
Cause no worse hand that does all that is going to call...
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Old 09-22-2007, 05:49 AM
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Default Re: tricky QQ hand. play along 1k nl

C/r is so bad here. You are better off betting and getting worst hands to call rather than expect someone to make a hero call when you do a c/r on the turn.
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