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Old 09-20-2007, 01:48 AM
king_of_drafts king_of_drafts is offline
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Default Re: 25/50 at borgata, we have a flush draw

blegh I hate flop play, I'd just lead
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:48 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 at borgata, we have a flush draw

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does villain ever fold if we check raise turn here? i don't really see a hand that villain bets on turn that folds to a c/r

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the second checkraise just looks so damn strong on this board in a live game, I think. I think you can get weaker live players to fold low sets here, and anything weaker that they bet will become "oh balls he just trapped me" and will instafold. Theres definitely a reasonable chance that he'll spaz out and bet the turn with some nonsense, probably.

of course i'm not saying that i really like a c/r that much, i just think its better than leading again, mainly because many times it'll check through and then you can play the river pretty well without a massive pot.

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dj no one is ever folding a set.
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Old 09-20-2007, 09:26 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 at borgata, we have a flush draw

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blegh I hate flop play, I'd just lead

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Old 09-20-2007, 10:44 AM
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Default Re: 25/50 at borgata, we have a flush draw

I think your play is fine, c/r will just create a pot so big that both of you will have to move in by the river..
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 at borgata, we have a flush draw

Gorgi,

As played, a c/r would be all in on the turn.
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Old 09-20-2007, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 at borgata, we have a flush draw

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dj no one is ever folding a set.

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probably not, but i've seen some crazy stupid stuff in live games. its not unpossible.
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:38 PM
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blegh I hate flop play, I'd just lead

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Old 09-20-2007, 06:52 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 at borgata, we have a flush draw

ok, let's say i lead flop and get two calls instead of a raise, what should my plan be for the turn?

and if b/3b, do i call if i get 4betted?
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 at borgata, we have a flush draw

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ok, let's say i lead flop and get two calls instead of a raise, what should my plan be for the turn?

and if b/3b, do i call if i get 4betted?

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I dunno it's hard to say, probably check blank turns.

If you b3b you can't fold, if I was raised I think I'd just fold
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Old 09-20-2007, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 at borgata, we have a flush draw

i would certainly not fold if i was raised, but whether i 3bet or call would be debateable, and depends on the raiser and the bet/stack sizes. if you 3bet and get 4bet you gotta stack off
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