Live 20/40: Isolation Raise that Backfired

[ssmallz]

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What rivers do you bet if checked to (8 obv) and what rivers if any do you call a donk bet from the field?

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Any non ace river and most king rivers. I don't call a donk bet if an A, K or Q, hits but i might if something lower hits and a crappy player bets.

[CardSharpCook]

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I have a hard time calling that a "backfire"

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Okay, not a backfire. The two cold-calls I did not like with this flop.

As far as the turn goes. Easy bet. Fine, that is what I did. But, we can really call a turn raise here? What could I beat in that situation?

Sorry if this is an easy hand. I was just unsure with the EP and BB players in this hand.

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Dude, you should LOVE your hand and this flop - esp because you charged them 2 more. (also, neither player "cold called." It was the BB and the limper, correct? Very different from a 3bet cold call.)

What hands are you beating? um, this is still a very bluffable board. If I have ace-jack here, I'm considering check-raising just to get some nit to fold a chop pot. I might not do it, but some do. 66,77 may be coming to life... as might 22,33. A variety of bluffs, etc. Point is, there is way too much that these players have for you to fold getting 5:1 (10:2). Yes, I fully believe you're losing this hand, but not that often. 30-40% winner here.

If you are checked to on the river, I would bet and then disgustedly throw my hand in the muck as he turns over 99.... Or roll my eyes and collect his chips as he shows me 77.

[CardSharpCook]

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because its a multi-way pot your opponents are unlikely to get frisky without a hand that beats yours, feel free to fold to a raise. Your hand will be good more than 1 in 8 times, which shows a positive return on your bet in a multiway pot. The pot is large, you gotta try!

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Come on, TT. His hand is good around 90-95% of the time right now, with the majority of the hands that are beating him being 99 and TT. I think, though, you're just trying to make a point to this poster that he's got to start thinking mathematically.

The highlighted portion is a bit off though. If he had air, and believes a bet wins this 1 in 8 times, he should bet. If he is trying to extract value with the best hand, his hand needs to be best much more often (40% seems about right). There is another factor at work here, of course. He needs to be betting this even if he's best here some 20% because of the possible overcards that these players should be holding. I'm sure you know all this, of course.

[MitchL]

The tough part is what to do when you get raised on the turn. I would hate it but probably call down.

[bakku]

bet a non ace river

[Yads]

this hand is super standard and now the standard play is to bet.