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#11
09-17-2007, 08:59 AM
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Re: $22 - 50/100 odd spot with 99
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[ QUOTE ] I didnt even see the limper fold or call [/ QUOTE ] no but if he folds you win t250 and not t150, which you would if there was no limper. understand now? [/ QUOTE ] hes risks 1700 to win 250 not good. 
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#12
09-17-2007, 09:10 AM
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Re: $22 - 50/100 odd spot with 99
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hes risks 1700 to win 250 not good. [/ QUOTE ] He risks 6.8:1 with the 6th best hand and a player who is described as someone who might even call with a much worser hand here. So things are o.k. for Hero. However, such calculations as above are inaccurate. Ask your ICM tools given reasonable limp/call-ranges and Blind-defend-ranges given the reads and you will find out that pushing is slightly +EV. If Hero feels incomfortable to play it postflop (reasonable given the stacks+reads and a very bad playable hand for postflop), he should shove it pf.
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#13
09-17-2007, 09:13 AM
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Re: $22 - 50/100 odd spot with 99
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I didnt even see the limper fold or call [/ QUOTE ] no but if he folds you win t250 and not t150, which you would if there was no limper. understand now? [/ QUOTE ] hes risks 1700 to win 250 not good. [/ QUOTE ] if blinds were sth like 85/165, you would play push or fold with a stack of 1700. it's the very same situation, since the unraised pot is 250, when it gets to hero.
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#14
09-17-2007, 10:17 AM
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Re: $22 - 50/100 odd spot with 99
It's basically a 10x BB shove that's why I like it. If I run into a hand behind me, well I would've gone broke anyways (I don't see myself raising 1/4th my stack and mucking to BB shove). UTG calls me with 22-88 and a lot of ace rags. I can't remember how active I had been in this one, but at it's only 50/100, I can't imagine ever raising weak and opening anything less than 99/AQs.
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09-17-2007, 11:12 AM
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Re: $22 - 50/100 odd spot with 99
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I didnt even see the limper fold or call [/ QUOTE ] no but if he folds you win t250 and not t150, which you would if there was no limper. understand now? [/ QUOTE ] hes risks 1700 to win 250 not good. [/ QUOTE ] if blinds were sth like 85/165, you would play push or fold with a stack of 1700. it's the very same situation, since the unraised pot is 250, when it gets to hero. [/ QUOTE ] pits bad way to think expect to be looked up by 1010+ only when called, 1700 to win 170 blind 99 is still thin, 1010 is nicer. Limper doesnt do much if late position is stronger.
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