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Old 09-14-2007, 08:24 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: nl400 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAh

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and nick, its a 3beted pot im OOP, not at all a horrible Cbet

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I didn't realise the 2nd hand was 400nl, it's less bad now. Still you shouldn't c-bet more in a rr pot, you should c-bet less. So your c-bet still sucks. And c/calling the turn after making a near potsized c-bet when you're splitting vs any A and lose vs any PP>33 is not good vs an unknown.
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:25 PM
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Default Re: nl400 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAh

Actually I didn't elaborate in my post.

When I said wtf is wrong with the 2nd hand, I meant it's not as god awful as you are making it out to be.

It's probably slightly -EV.
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: nl400 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAh

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And what do you do to combat these ½pot bets?

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Meh, players bet 1/2-pot with both monsters and marginal hands after they called the flop. I'm not experiencing any troubles with 1/2-pot bets in particular.
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:28 PM
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Default Re: nl400 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAh

spivey, he is wide here

Board: 7d 7c 4c 4s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.371% 43.53% 12.84% 3505 1034.00 { AcKh }
Hand 1: 43.629% 30.79% 12.84% 2479 1034.00 { 22+, ATs+, KcQc, KJs-KTs, QcJc, QcTc, JcTc, Tc9c, 9c8c, 8c7c, 7c6c, 6c5c, 5c4c, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: nl400 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAh

both hands are nl400 ofc, I expected him to bet draws like this and check a pocket but wasent sure, never the less I might be ahead. stats for vill in hand#2 are 47/23 at 50hands.

hand 2 is also 1/3 not ½ bet

hand one is brutal I know I was stressed and quit playing after it
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:32 PM
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Default Re: nl400 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAh

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Actually I didn't elaborate in my post.

When I said wtf is wrong with the 2nd hand, I meant it's not as god awful as you are making it out to be.

It's probably slightly -EV.

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I wasn't being totally serious in my first post, just answering his post about wanting to get berated.

But c-betting almost 90% pot in a rr pot on a dry-ish board is bad. And it's not good to follow up that mistake by c/calling the turn vs the strong portion of his preflop rr-calling range. So he at least misplayed 2 out of 3 streets.
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:33 PM
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Default Re: nl400 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAh

I'm not sure all those hands are in his range, and I definitely think it should be weighted towards his better hands - he's more likely to bet a good hand than turn 55 into a bluff, for example. I didn't see any reads in the OP for second hand, and you have to think he always floats and is a light 3 bet caller if you're assigning so much garbage to his range.
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