AA opens and gets soooooo much action pre flop. Shall we shove???

[Spete]

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So here I had a decision, and decided to flat call, as he only is ahead 1 in 10 times on the flop, and with his 20BBs raise he does not get his proper odds.


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He can't give himself odds after he has put the raise in. Instead by calling you are giving him a FREE CARD to hit his set. Now calling may be ok when you want to trap with aces if you know he has QQ+, but then again you might as well push.

Another way to look at the first hand is in terms of FTOP. Preflop, had you known he had KK, you would have shoved, right? On the flop, had you known he had KKK, you would have folded, right?