nl100:pot two

[keikiwai]

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Keik i think a fold here is really just ridic weak and this is a snapcall vs a button-open-limping-retard.

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gimee a range that's calling the flop and shoving the turn

start w/ ATC pf

[thac]

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Keik i think a fold here is really just ridic weak and this is a snapcall vs a button-open-limping-retard.

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gimee a range that's calling the flop and shoving the turn

start w/ ATC pf

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A2, AT, J9c, KJ, QJc, KQc, 22 (although if he's raising QT on this flop he should be raising 22), QT (I guess)

[docnuclear]

I call here every time, lose a fair amount but win some and I still think it's +EV vs a not so good player. You beat every other 2 pair and are ahead of combo draws

[keikiwai]

i guess you're right in that he could have picked up a FD and is shoving w/ it, but that's a pretty aggro move.... while open limping the button is the opposite of aggro, so i don't know if i believe that

[thac]

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i guess you're right in that he could have picked up a FD and is shoving w/ it, but that's a pretty aggro move.... while open limping the button is the opposite of aggro, so i don't know if i believe that

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But how often do you see these guys shoving KJ here? I mean, generally they're passive postflop even with made hands.. so I really don't know what to think of his shove and it seems like more of a bluff line to me because he'd try to squeeze value out of you if you were bluffing and he had a made hand.

[keikiwai]

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i guess you're right in that he could have picked up a FD and is shoving w/ it, but that's a pretty aggro move.... while open limping the button is the opposite of aggro, so i don't know if i believe that

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But how often do you see these guys shoving KJ here? I mean, generally they're passive postflop even with made hands.. so I really don't know what to think of his shove and it seems like more of a bluff line to me because he'd try to squeeze value out of you if you were bluffing and he had a made hand.

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where are you getting the passive w/ made hands?

[thac]

Oh just IME with these guys that are passive preflop, they're either passive or aggressive with their whole range. Usually passive.

[bubaloo]

wow spooky, i had a hand v.similar to this a few weeks ago, villain had AT vs my AQ so im gonna go with call here (just because of that)