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Old 09-04-2007, 01:51 PM
Limpfold Limpfold is offline
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Default Re: Daliman\'s NFL Wong teasers, Season Deux

As mentioned in numerous other threads 5-dimes fiddle with their lines, thus those aren't 'true' Wongs.
Nearly all of 5dimes +2.5 dogs is at +110 where all other books has them at +3.
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:17 PM
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Default Re: Daliman\'s NFL Wong teasers, Season Deux

1.5-2.5 point underdogs
7.5-8.5 point favorites
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Old 09-04-2007, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: Daliman\'s NFL Wong teasers, Season Deux

yeah....5dimes is scamming guys into placing bad wongs
They are buying off the 3 for you and then putting it into a wong
Basically, you're getting 5.5 off a 3 point spread instead of 6 off a 2.5
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Old 09-04-2007, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: Daliman\'s NFL Wong teasers, Season Deux

Bodog has a couple of +3 -125 lines. I don't know the math, but I would think these are +EV teases since you're getting a free half point or so.
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Old 09-04-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: Daliman\'s NFL Wong teasers, Season Deux

My book is only showing 2 wongable games as well...maybe the lines will move late in the week but I don't know.
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: Daliman\'s NFL Wong teasers, Season Deux

JasonK not sure about those since Bodog is 11:10 odds not 1:1 on the 2 teamer.

Also remember with how 5Dimes is taking these off the 3, they are the same then as buying 6.5 at 11:10 on 5Dimes making these the same plays at any other site with them already on the 3. Annoying that 5Dimes does this.

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Old 09-04-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Daliman\'s NFL Wong teasers, Season Deux

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Oh yeah. 5Dimes is the only site I have found offering 1:1 on two teamers. How bad does the 11:10 screw with the EV of these bets?



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You need to cover 72.4% of the time to break even at -110. Crossing the 3 and 7 resulted in covering 76% of the time according to SSB, so it should still be +EV.
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:42 PM
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Default Re: Daliman\'s NFL Wong teasers, Season Deux

Thanks Chaz, how often do these need to hit to break even at +100?
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:47 PM
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Default Re: Daliman\'s NFL Wong teasers, Season Deux

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Thanks Chaz, how often do these need to hit to break even at +100?

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0.707^2 = 0.5, so 70.7% for two teams.
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Old 09-04-2007, 07:51 PM
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Default Re: Daliman\'s NFL Wong teasers, Season Deux

Carolina has crept to +1.5 at Bodog, wonder if we'll see this at other books soon.
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