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Old 08-31-2007, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: 33 hits set in 3bet pot, semideep stacked

Deffo call pf vs this guy.

I think if you pot river, you fold if he raises - this looks like nut flush lookin for snap call vs flush/ random 4.
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: 33 hits set in 3bet pot, semideep stacked

Easy call pf.......you're both deep and you've got an easy hand to fold if you don't hit. You got exactly the flop you wanted. Bet it out and hope for a raise. Get you're chips in while you're very likely to be ahead.
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: 33 hits set in 3bet pot, semideep stacked

Looking at his stats, I really had no reason to believe that he wouldn`t not CBet this flop. So I thought I check/call flop and lead turn for 1/2 pot.

I want to give him a chance to bet AK, AQs hands here. If I come out betting those hands will most likely fold and I loose value.
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: 33 hits set in 3bet pot, semideep stacked

A discussion on calling pf is stupid imo, easy call playing deep... Don't mind the line at all, and I also think its a fold on the river even tho u've underepresented ur hand all the way, even with a weak bet on the river...
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Old 09-01-2007, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: 33 hits set in 3bet pot, semideep stacked

lead out on the flop strong. Whats the point of checking anyway? If you check the flop and raise the turn (which you are going to have to if you plan on building a nice pot) you are going to make your hand so transparent.

Lead flop, Lead turn - both strong. Call a flop or turn shove.
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:20 AM
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Default Re: 33 hits set in 3bet pot, semideep stacked

man with how much weakness you've shown I'd have a tough time getting away on the river
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Old 09-01-2007, 02:23 AM
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Default Re: 33 hits set in 3bet pot, semideep stacked

the preflop argument is a decent one here. i think it is close either way but being oop makes this ghey so my typical line is to just dump it preflop a lot of the time because playing in 3 bet pots oop is ubber tough even with a hand that is hit or miss. (note how much easier this hand would have been if we were in position.)

now the rest of the hand is gross. i deff check this flop ALL day. i think u r burning money if u dont. i bet he cbets this flop like 85+%. a check is deffinatly better then a bet. why let him get away from his hands that missed. and there are a lot of those given his preflop 3 betting range.

turn is standard. river is gross. i really think a fold is best altho i think if u made a bigger river bet then it would make ur fold easier. but i still cant see him doing this with n e hand we beat. we r getting AWFULL odds and on this board no way he shoves with 2pair or w/e. he either has a straight, flush, or complete air. i have a hard time believing that he has air 40+% of the time tho. i think u have to sigh and muck.
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:04 AM
Brian O'Nolan Brian O'Nolan is offline
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Default Re: 33 hits set in 3bet pot, semideep stacked

Think flop is goot, but after that pot the turn. If you're gonna bet the river plz bet more like 25 otherwise I like a c/call most rivers, river card is pretty super for villain to bluff. If he's really a good 26/23 I suggest a table change.
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:07 AM
Jago Jago is offline
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Default Re: 33 hits set in 3bet pot, semideep stacked

I think we have to discount the chance he has a flush here, people with AFs of 4 bets that flop all day everyday.

And people who donks this flop are result oriented
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: 33 hits set in 3bet pot, semideep stacked

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man with how much weakness you've shown I'd have a tough time getting away on the river

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i agree, so obv u hated the river. c/c instead or bet a bit more
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