obvious fold on A high board, right?

[gobbledygeek]

* grunch *

(note I'm only 2/4 B&M player, your game might be very different)

I cap this every time. The only time I wouldn't is if I know UTG+1 is getting out his capping chips for me. There are three other players and I have the second best possible hand (and most likely the best), I get my money in while I'm ahead.

With a raiser, a 3bettor and a 3coldcaller I think there is a pretty damn good chance someone has an A so I think I check the flop as well as played. But closing the action and getting 16:1 I think this is an easy call. I only have to make up 6SB = 3BB which should be very easy to do if I hit a K on the turn.

GcluelessnoobG

[Louis88]

Had you capped it preflop, as you should have, flop would be an easy call getting 20:1 as you'd only have to make up 2.5 BB. As played, I think I'm still peeling a card here.

[HoneyBadger]

You guys aren't factoring in that we might hit our 22.5:1 longshot and are up against pocket aces. Generally, this is not a good peel to the set. I'd only peel if I thought my hand may be good.

[Xhad]

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Oh yeah, there's one other hand that's likely to give you action if you turn a K. It isn't AK.

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Yeah one problem with peeling here is that if you c/r the turn and get 3bet you should arguably just call down. That's pretty bad since we only had 2 outs anyway.

Of course we shouldn't be having this conversation because of pf.

[Xhad]

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With a raiser, a 3bettor and a 3coldcaller I think there is a pretty damn good chance someone has an A so I think I check the flop as well as played. But closing the action and getting 16:1 I think this is an easy call. I only have to make up 6SB = 3BB which should be very easy to do if I hit a K on the turn.

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It's only "very easy" if he has AK or if he has AA and you river quads.

[Bob T.]

If it is multiway, you cap with kings. If it is headsup, there might be some value of trying to get a raise in on a big bet street against the right player, but I still usually cap kings headsup.

On the flop, closing the action, I think you have a call, and it isn't close. If you spike a king on the turn, the implied odds you will get from being able to checkraise the field here, are going to more than make up for any shortfall you have in simple pot odds.

[Louis88]

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You guys aren't factoring in that we might hit our 22.5:1 longshot and are up against pocket aces. Generally, this is not a good peel to the set. I'd only peel if I thought my hand may be good.

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Good point! Thanks for helping me see this more clearly.

[Bob T.]

The action hasn't indicated yet, that anyone has AA, it is a possibility, but I wouldn't worry about it, until I see the turn action, and in the meantime, I am going to peel, because it is very likely that I get enough action to pay for the peel if I do make a set.

The other possibility, is that the turn gets checked through, and noone does have an ace.

[Triantafylidis]

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But, If I cap preflop, then I don't get a chance to see if UTG+1 caps with AA or 2 red Kings, plus it's awfully weak to cap from the SB and then have that big ol ace show up on the flop, or even any broadway with the exception of a King.

This is a precarious hand. Anyone else have a strong view on this?

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Agree, played perfectly

[Xhad]

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But, If I cap preflop, then I don't get a chance to see if UTG+1 caps with AA or 2 red Kings, plus it's awfully weak to cap from the SB and then have that big ol ace show up on the flop, or even any broadway with the exception of a King.

This is a precarious hand. Anyone else have a strong view on this?

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Agree, played perfectly

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Nah, obviously hero should have folded preflop since A's hit the flop so much anyway.

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