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Old 08-31-2007, 01:11 AM
Harry Fong Harry Fong is offline
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Default Re: I have trouble playing KQo OOP

I agree you do not want to play this OOP.

Though what would CO's PFR% be in order to make this a call?
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Old 08-31-2007, 01:24 AM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: I have trouble playing KQo OOP

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I agree you do not want to play this OOP.

Though what would CO's PFR% be in order to make this a call?

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There is IMO no number to make this a call. His #'s make this either a fold or a raise.
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Old 08-31-2007, 01:28 AM
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Default Re: I have trouble playing KQo OOP

Best option is to fold and wait for a better spot. I know others will not agree, but calling here and firing on the flop is another less aggressive option to re raising PF. If the guy is a table bully, I'll sometimes smooth call PF and then lead out on the flop to neutralize the bully and keep him away from my BB's. If you have nothing but air after firing on the flop and he raises, you lay it down and move on, but many times this move will take it down if he's planning on c-betting with air.
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Old 08-31-2007, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: I have trouble playing KQo OOP

If you are uncomfortable playing OOP, fold the hand, but do any of you guys realize what a a VPIP of 32% is raising in the CO??

Especially if the Button is tight, and he feels he can steal the Button a good % of the time. For me this is a 3-bet here, vs this style villain roughly 80% of the time vs Villain with a VPIP of 32%. Assuming this is standard uNL villain who runs like 32/15

Agree with Lego, that there is no excuse for calling w/this hand OOP, that is just plain horrible. but am really surprised that most of you answer fold as default here....pretty nitty.

Note: there is probably nothing wrong w/folding here as a default line, if villain is decent Postflop, and we are uncomfortably playing OOP when we don't hit. But we are pretty far ahead of a CO raiser's range with this hand.
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Old 08-31-2007, 05:42 AM
Ze_Gnome Ze_Gnome is offline
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Default Re: I have trouble playing KQo OOP

I think 3-Bet KQo at NL10 is a little bit overaggressive. You have to be sure about Villain's stats and know how to play reraised pots OOP to do that.
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Old 08-31-2007, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: I have trouble playing KQo OOP

32% vpip doesnt say anything about his preflop raising range.

fold>raise>call IMO
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Old 08-31-2007, 10:04 AM
Waingro Waingro is offline
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Default Re: I have trouble playing KQo OOP

I donīt really see why we would 3bet, a 32 VPIP isnīt necessarely stupid or spewy. I think if we 3bet pf and hit tpgk and get action on the flop we probably have to fold. So why are we creating a big pot pf that we donīt really want? I like a 3bet more with J4o. Unless villain is stupid and spewy of course and we are happy to get it in on the flop with tpgk.

Also, we are really not interested in his VPIP here we want to know his pfr % for obvious reasons.
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