enough action

[MitchL]

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fold the flop. Turn cap is questionable. Also: DO NOT RAISE THAT RIVER, SIR. A single raise was bad. Even considering 4 betting it is just awful. I'm not trying to be rude here, but you really need to have a read that villain thinks 2 pair is the nuts, before you go hog wild with the 2nd worst set in a live game.

Online, you can go more bets with sets vs. the average player, but the average live player doesn't really give you this much action with a worse hand often enough to justify all the raising you are doing.

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There is no cap head up. Also, I didnt 4bet the river, but the fact that he didnt reraise the turn but donks the river makes this seem like AK alot more than any set.

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the thing is, you didn't give us a description of the SB so we're just assuming he's not a total lag retard that would put in this much action with AK

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You are correct. I referred to him as villain from my previous post which doesnt really help. I also am not completely sure that my read was that he was totally lag at the time. If I were to post this hand with him being an unknown then you guys are probably right, but I could certainly see alot of people play AK this way, except for the river bet. My hand has set written all over it.

[Munchkin Mayor]

I am sure he is overplaying AK, but not sure enough to reraise.

[andyfox]

"My hand has set written all over it."

So then why raise the river?

[Jeffage]

I don't get why you call the flop raise here - easy muck in my opinion. As played, unless SB is a lagtard I'm not raising the river - he has 99 or slowplayed KK or AA too often.

Jeff

[goofball]

It kind of skews it but when he donks that river he's looking to raise, most likely it's with a better hand. You definitely have to call the 3bet, not fold and not raise.

Also everyone of course he should call the flop when he's goign to spike his 2 outer.

[elindauer]

Given the preflop action, a set is WAY more likely than 2 pair. Call.

Also, your flop call is awfully thin. Do you really have enough implied odds to make this call. I doubt it.

good luck.
-eric

[elindauer]

Just read the replies and have to ask those that recommend a 3-bet... what kind of player is laggy enough to give this much action with AK, but not aggressive to enough to 3-bet it preflop?

I just can't imagine the kind of player that holds AK here, so I heavily discount this possibility.

-eric

[MitchL]

Elindauer,

I appreciate your input. Im pretty sure this is one of those you had to be there hands. I agree that a set is more likely than 2 pair for an unknown by the river. If I were to describe him after the session I would say he is typical of alot of spewers these days who miss value pf, but anytime they flop something they go apeshit. None of this really matters though, bc at the time I dont think I knew him well enough to jack the river. Obv, he had AK and I was being too results oriented after the hand, but assuming I factored into the small sample read I had on him our brief history I thought I could make the river raise.

[PokerBob]

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Just read the replies and have to ask those that recommend a 3-bet... what kind of player is laggy enough to give this much action with AK, but not aggressive to enough to 3-bet it preflop?



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I phrase it a different way:

Q: Why would he go nuts on the turn with AK there?

A: Same reason he just called with it preflop: He is a friggin' moron.