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Old 08-29-2007, 12:40 PM
FGators FGators is offline
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Default Re: KQ c/r bluff hits on turn

We are significantly behind here regardless of the price. I think the c/r is fine and the bet is fine but we are toast here.

Also preflop is kinda meh.

KQo OOP against a regular isn't enticing.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: KQ c/r bluff hits on turn

You are such a nit, jesus. No wonder you get abused in your games all the time.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: KQ c/r bluff hits on turn

villain in this hand is me, fwiw.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: KQ c/r bluff hits on turn

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villain in this hand is me, fwiw.

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Is that so? Well, I'm pretty sure I'd still call. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $191.90
Tozzy (BB): $952.84
Hero (UTG): $699.00

MP: $606.22
CO: $399.60
BTN: $427.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, 3 folds, SB calls $14.00, Tozzy calls $12.00

Flop: ($48) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $24.00</font>, Tozzy calls $24.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $99.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $175.90</font>, <font color="red">Tozzy raises to $672.00</font>, Hero calls all-in for $584.00, Tozzy calls $11.00

Turn: ($1589.90) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($1589.90) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $1,589.90 ($3 Rake)

SB had T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a straight Seven to Jack) and WON (+$380.80)
Tozzy had 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pairs, Eights and Sevens) and LOST (-$699.00)
Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Jacks) and WON (+$315.20)
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:26 PM
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Default Re: KQ c/r bluff hits on turn

i posted this very hand like ages ago, ppl agreed i shouldve folded the flop to your reraise. bobbo says its a push [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:36 PM
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i posted this very hand like ages ago, ppl agreed i shouldve folded the flop to your reraise. bobbo says its a push [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Yeah I remember. Where did Bobbo say to push? I just searched for the thread and didn't see him post. Talked to him on AIM or something?

Also, it's definitely not a push IMO and I would love to hear Bobbo explain how it's +EV.

Sorry for the thread hijack Fionn, although I think this hand is very relevant to your own.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:38 PM
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yeah, we were discussing the hand over aim. hes currently moving into a new apartment or smth, ill tell him to post here, tho.
does that mean that youre putting me on spades for this hand?
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:56 PM
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Spades is a good portion of your range, 45 suited, hell if you thought he was on a flush draw or something you might value shove TT here, Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], etc. I could go on and on ...
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: KQ c/r bluff hits on turn

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i posted this very hand like ages ago, ppl agreed i shouldve folded the flop to your reraise. bobbo says its a push [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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Yeah I remember. Where did Bobbo say to push? I just searched for the thread and didn't see him post. Talked to him on AIM or something?

Also, it's definitely not a push IMO and I would love to hear Bobbo explain how it's +EV.

Sorry for the thread hijack Fionn, although I think this hand is very relevant to your own.

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yeah np man. link to tozzy's thread anyone?
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:58 PM
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Default Re: KQ c/r bluff hits on turn

I agree with aisle, bet/folding is really bad here - villain is very often going to be shoving or folding when you bet this turn. If he is usually shoving or folding, bet/folding KQ is obviously retarded.
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