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Old 08-26-2007, 10:16 AM
incognitus incognitus is offline
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Default Re: AK - Bleeding money.....

$1 into $2.1 is asking to get bluff reraised or he will get to draw very cheap.
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:35 PM
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Thanks guys. Both your comments make sense.

I think size of CBET i need to reconsider.

If you commit to making a cbet then you need to follow through and bet a decent size.

Am I right in noticing that on 2+2 it seems to be generally accpeted that you need to cbet more than the 1/3 to 1/2 spoken of by Harrington in HOH1??

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HOH is a tournament book, a lot of good stuff, but some of it needs to be adapted. Tournaments will usually not be 100BB deep, but more like 5-50BB where a 1/3 or 1/2 pot bet is a much more significant portion of someone's stack.
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Old 08-26-2007, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: AK - Bleeding money.....

1/2 psb is not an effective CB.

I would CB 2/3 or 3/4 at a min for these stakes.

Do you ever double-barrel?
Maybe try a delayed CB next time.
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: AK - Bleeding money.....

Check turn in hand 2. Other than that, it looks good.

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Old 08-26-2007, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: AK - Bleeding money.....

A response to the other posters: No one pays attention. At these stakes only a few people (very few) notices if you play AA the same or if you c-bet small when you miss or big when you hit. You have almost the same FE if you bet 1/2 pot as you do when you bet 2/3 pots, and it makes a difference in your WR if you only lose 4 BB instead of 6 everytime he decides to call or raise.

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Old 08-26-2007, 06:30 PM
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A response to the other posters: No one pays attention. At these stakes only a few people (very few) notices if you play AA the same or if you c-bet small when you miss or big when you hit. You have almost the same FE if you bet 1/2 pot as you do when you bet 2/3 pots, and it makes a difference in your WR if you only lose 4 BB instead of 6 everytime he decides to call or raise.

Dumle

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no, no and no!

So if the board comes JT5 with 2 spades, you only bet 1/2 pot, letting everyone and their pet getting correct odds?

You vary the size of your cbets based on how the flop looks like. You let people pay a high price for their possible draws.

And who says noone is paying any attention? People with 35/5 stats may look like donks, but they only play 1 table. Eventually they will pick up on your betting habits, and because you are mindlessly 8-tabling, and only betting 1/2 PSB, you will get raised with air much more.
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Old 08-26-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: AK - Bleeding money.....

1 fine
2 i typically c/f turn vs unknown.
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Old 08-26-2007, 07:07 PM
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So if the board comes JT5 with 2 spades, you only bet 1/2 pot, letting everyone and their pet getting correct odds?


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At these levels, it is usually a good idea to give up on the turn if they call a flop bet. And they will call this bet with all kinds of draws. Once in a while, you may win with your a-high unimproved when they check down, but often you will face a bet on either turn or river. You will face this bet whether you bet 1/2 or 2/3 on the flop, and you will have to give up regardless as well.

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You vary the size of your cbets based on how the flop looks like. You let people pay a high price for their possible draws.


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When you got something, this is usually a good idea, yes.

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And who says noone is paying any attention? People with 35/5 stats may look like donks, but they only play 1 table. Eventually they will pick up on your betting habits, and because you are mindlessly 8-tabling, and only betting 1/2 PSB, you will get raised with air much more.

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And how many hands will you play against them during a session? Often not enough. The next session they wont remember you. I do agree, though, that those you play against frequently (I have about 8-10 of those) it may be a good idea to not play entirely predictable, but they are very few and far between.

This may be some ramblings. Am tired. Will get back tommorrow.

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