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#11
08-25-2007, 01:17 PM
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Re: Raise pre, check fold post
i'm a big fan of ppl posting random terribly played hands in the middle of threads
it's #2 on my list of fav 2p2 things behind betgo starting threads in bbv and the entire uNL forum 
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#12
08-25-2007, 01:38 PM
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Re: Raise pre, check fold post
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I think thats a horrible spot to check behind..if you want him to fold a king you better put in a bet on the flop. [/ QUOTE ] I don't want to highjack Bond's thread discussing my hand so I'll just stick to the theme of the OP: when to cbet and when to check back. My reasons for checking here, in no particular order, are: 1. I don't have a made hand but I have outs. I don't want to get blown off this hand if I bet and Russ shoves. 2. I have position. 3. Russ has been very aggro and he is likely to c/shove or c/raise a lot. 4. We've been playing together since the final two tables and I have been cbetting a lot. I am mixing it up with delayed cbets as well. For those who say cbet in this spot, are you calling if Russ shoves? In the moment, I wasn't sure if I would call off over half my stack on this draw. So, I decided to check back and fire any turn.
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#13
08-25-2007, 01:42 PM
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Re: Raise pre, check fold post
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I think thats a horrible spot to check behind..if you want him to fold a king you better put in a bet on the flop. [/ QUOTE ] He's not likely to fold a K to a cbet here. We're three-handed and I'm raising like every other hand. I don't get credit for an A bc I fire one barrel.
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#14
08-25-2007, 02:13 PM
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Re: Raise pre, check fold post
1. I said if you want him to fold a K at any point in the hand, you should bet the flop.
2. Your hand has nothing to do with Bond's OP. 3. I can't believe you think you can get blown off this draw if you bet the flop.
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#16
08-25-2007, 02:43 PM
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Re: Raise pre, check fold post
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i'm a big fan of ppl posting random terribly played hands in the middle of threads it's #2 on my list of fav 2p2 things behind betgo starting threads in bbv and the entire uNL forum [/ QUOTE ] betgo starting threads in any other forum is good, too fsoyars: the flop check is meh, but by no means the really bad decision in this hand.
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#18
08-25-2007, 04:49 PM
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Re: Raise pre, check fold post
PokerStars Game #11687672189: Tournament #58540605, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (500/1000) - 2007/08/25 - 16:47:31 (ET)
Table '58540605 4' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 2: mkind0516 (46333 in chips) Seat 3: WhooooKidd (63847 in chips) Seat 4: squik (19144 in chips) Seat 5: garompon (21795 in chips) Seat 6: allinstevie (26171 in chips) Seat 7: tunnny (57096 in chips) Seat 8: stacksanchez (8410 in chips) Seat 9: JOEYTHEB (20635 in chips) mkind0516: posts the ante 100 WhooooKidd: posts the ante 100 squik: posts the ante 100 garompon: posts the ante 100 allinstevie: posts the ante 100 tunnny: posts the ante 100 stacksanchez: posts the ante 100 JOEYTHEB: posts the ante 100 stacksanchez: posts small blind 500 JOEYTHEB: posts big blind 1000 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to WhooooKidd [Qc Ac] mkind0516: folds WhooooKidd: raises 1700 to 2700 squik: folds garompon: calls 2700 allinstevie: folds tunnny: folds stacksanchez: folds JOEYTHEB: folds *** FLOP *** [8h 3s Js] WhooooKidd: checks garompon: bets 5000 WhooooKidd: folds garompon collected 7700 from pot garompon: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 7700 | Rake 0 Board [8h 3s Js] Seat 2: mkind0516 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: WhooooKidd folded on the Flop Seat 4: squik folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: garompon collected (7700) Seat 6: allinstevie folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: tunnny (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: stacksanchez (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: JOEYTHEB (big blind) folded before Flop
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#20
08-25-2007, 07:55 PM
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Re: Raise pre, check fold post
It's really a matter of knowing your opponents. What kind of hands is he likely to call with there preflop and what will he do with them against a bet. There's really no simple general answer, but things like flop texture and stack sizes are very important for making educated guesses when you don't know that much about your opponents specific tendencies.
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