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Old 08-25-2007, 02:07 AM
winningfish winningfish is offline
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AK is possible but more likely 66 77 88. You could call as you're close to even but there's really not enough in the pot to justify that IMO.

Not an absolute fold but better than calling.
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Old 08-25-2007, 02:09 AM
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Are you guys kidding about folding here? I get my money in so fast here I almost shoot blood out of my forehead.
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Old 08-25-2007, 02:16 AM
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Are you guys kidding about folding here? I get my money in so fast here I almost shoot blood out of my forehead.

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Who would 5-bet PF shoving 10 x raised pot on AK? To me it screams someone who doesn't want to see flop knowing overcards will hit and pair up one of the opponents.. mid pockets makes more sense.. but that doesn't mean Hero couldn't call.
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Old 08-25-2007, 02:21 AM
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Are you guys kidding about folding here? I get my money in so fast here I almost shoot blood out of my forehead.

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So fast that what?
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Old 08-25-2007, 02:22 AM
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mid pps make this a fist pump call given overlay

just sayin....
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Old 08-25-2007, 02:41 AM
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My coach and I discussed spots like this a lot today and this is clearly a fold.

At best you are chopping.
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Old 08-25-2007, 02:46 AM
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My coach and I discussed spots like this a lot today and this is clearly a fold.

At best you are chopping.

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That;'s what I started to think after the hand. How often do I get in as a big favorite here? Does AQ or AJ ever do this? If they don't, then why are we calling? It's often a chop, prob like 80%, but the rest of the time we're usually crushed...
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Old 08-25-2007, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: WTF hand against unknowns

snap call
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Old 08-25-2007, 03:27 AM
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That;'s what I started to think after the hand. How often do I get in as a big favorite here? Does AQ or AJ ever do this? If they don't, then why are we calling? It's often a chop, prob like 80%, but the rest of the time we're usually crushed...

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The % where you're dominated isn't large enough to snap fold. I'm looking at the size of the shove in relation to pot size, if the shove was $120-150, a call isn't that bad. $300+? Fold.
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Old 08-25-2007, 03:35 AM
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That;'s what I started to think after the hand. How often do I get in as a big favorite here? Does AQ or AJ ever do this? If they don't, then why are we calling? It's often a chop, prob like 80%, but the rest of the time we're usually crushed...

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The % where you're dominated isn't large enough to snap fold. I'm looking at the size of the shove in relation to pot size, if the shove was $120-150, a call isn't that bad. $300+? Fold.

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I never said anything about snap folding. The ev calcs I've done suggest this is a call. I was just curious what other people make of this play from SB and how to interpret it.
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