AQo from UTG facing a re-raise (4/180)

[plzleenowhammy]

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There was not a lot of preflop raising at my table.

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Doesn't that make folding now easier?

[SuperUberBob]

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There was not a lot of preflop raising at my table.

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Doesn't that make folding now easier?

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Again, I was on tilt and thought temporarily AQ = nuts.

[Butcho22]

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I would fold preflop and I really wouldn't think much of it.

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Didn't even notice this.

I would definitely not. There was not a lot of preflop raising at my table. No way I muck this preflop.

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With 1800 chips and a BB of 100, I know I have several orbits (at least) to find a much better situation, or to chip up with some steals. No need to panic just yet.

We're only getting action from hands that beat us (it looks like we're snap calling an all in, and you said yourself there hasn't been much raising), so that means we're either behind, or we win 150 chips.

So yeah, I muck it.

[donquay]

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This is an easy fold.
1. He re-raised you one seat to your left with several players behind him yet to act. A solid player would do this with nothing short of a premium hand (top pocket pair or AK). What are the hands you are hoping he has? AJ on down, and that's not highly likely. Poket pairs JJ on down are coin flips, and you are in serious trouble with QQ on up and AK.

2. He doesn't have a desperate stack, so he is under no pressure to steal. Instead he raises enough that commits him to the pot if called, but doesn't raise all in. That sort of play is begging for a call.

3. If you call, you will be out of position and at a severe disadvantage.

Fold.

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what he said...except calling and being oop doesn't matter since all your chips will have to go in anyways

[betgo]

Just based on the title, fold. The standard play is to raise AQo UTG and fold to a reraise, figuring the reraising hand usually has you dominated.

[registrar]

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Just based on the title, fold. The standard play is to raise AQo UTG and fold to a reraise, figuring the reraising hand usually has you dominated.

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It's a 4/180 coming upto the first break so, in general, raise-call here for sure. It's the read and the bet-size that makes this a fold.

[Stumpy]

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Gonna over-analyze this just to see if my new style of analysis and logic are correct...

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Bacon,

Your numbers are pretty good. Below are a few short-cuts and minor errors.

I commend you on doing the hard work, but for your own sake, go here: PokerStove!
Download that free program, and type in AQo for Player 1, TT+,AQs+,AQo+ for player 2, and push Evaluate.

It gives 34.397% equity.
There are plenty of other spots where you need good math/logic skills, but let this figure out your equity at least.


To calculate the equity you need in a hand, do this:
(Amount to Call) / (Total Pot After Call.)

Here assume if you shove he calls, since he raised half his stack.
Essentially this is the same as if he shoved after your raise.

So the pot = 300 raise + 300 call + 150 SB/BB = 750
Amount to Call = 1580 (His raise if he shoved.)

1580/(2*1580 + 750) = 40.4% equity needed to call (shove)


Finally, when you want to figure out the occurance of each hand in a range, count the hand combinations, correcting for your hole cards.
Then the % each one happens is obviously just Hand Combos/Total Combos. In () Below.

AK - 12 (26 2/3%)
AQ - 9 (20%)
AA - 3 (6 2/3%)
KK - 6 (13 1/3%)
QQ - 3 (6 2/3%)
JJ - 6 (13 1/3%)
TT - 6 (13 1/3%)

Note some of your %ages are off a bit.
Also, to avoid weird numbers as long as possible, you can weight everything by the hand counts and then just divide by total hands at the end.

-Stumpy

[sledghammer]

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Just based on the title, fold. The standard play is to raise AQo UTG and fold to a reraise, figuring the reraising hand usually has you dominated.

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It's a 4/180 coming upto the first break so, in general, raise-call here for sure. It's the read and the bet-size that makes this a fold.

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Exactly. And christ on a cracker, bumpy, AQ is not a marginal hand. We get action from plenty worse in a 4x180.

[Black Aces 518]

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We're only getting action from hands that beat us (it looks like we're snap calling an all in, and you said yourself there hasn't been much raising), so that means we're either behind, or we win 150 chips.

So yeah, I muck it.

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wtf, what? you really think that at a standard 4/180 table, no one is calling a 3x raise with something AQ beats? LOLZ. I can buy you aren't getting 3-bet a whole lot when you are ahead, but openfolding this is horrible in a 4/180.