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Old 08-22-2007, 01:07 PM
dmoney dmoney is offline
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Default Re: QQ on monotone flop.. can I shove here?

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reraise pf. you should be 3-betting without history/reads. QQ is too good a hand to smooth pf without any reads (sometimes QQ is nice to smooth for deception value against aggro TAGs or whatever, but readless i'm rr-ing alot).
flop i don't mind shoving.

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However you need to call flop bet sometimes to keep people guessing. The benefit of shoving the flop really makes it seem like you have AhXx and he will call with a medium over pair.
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:25 PM
WarhammerIIC WarhammerIIC is offline
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Default Re: QQ on monotone flop.. can I shove here?

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Why do you need to know where you at? Your stack is not at risk as you have position. Just call down cheaply and try to see the showdown. He will either slowdown eventually or you will have a somewhat difficult river decision. But you should have tonns of information by that time.

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How are you calling down cheaply when he bet the pot on the flop? You're putting about 1/3 of your stack in at this point.
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:45 PM
danny8 danny8 is offline
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Default Re: QQ on monotone flop.. can I shove here?

def 3bet this pf, QQ is far too strong to just calla pfr.

as played i would shove. he'll almost certainly call with the A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and likely call with an overpair. you have v.good equity vs his range and theres a decent chance he'll call with worse.
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:13 PM
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Default Re: QQ on monotone flop.. can I shove here?

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Why do you need to know where you at? Your stack is not at risk as you have position. Just call down cheaply and try to see the showdown. He will either slowdown eventually or you will have a somewhat difficult river decision. But you should have tonns of information by that time.

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How are you calling down cheaply when he bet the pot on the flop? You're putting about 1/3 of your stack in at this point.

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You cant predict his turn and river lines based on his flop cbet.
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