The mindset of an anarcho-capitalist voluntarist

[pokerbobo]

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On the right, gone are the days of limited govt, low taxes, low spending.

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When do you think these days ended?

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In actuality... not long after Lincoln.... although there have been sporadic pushes back towards this, but taxes and spending have gone so far up its like pissing into the wind.

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Even Jefferson exceeded his constitutionally granted powers once president.

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I was looking at the republican party, of which Lincoln is considered the "father" of.

The evil catalyst for excessive taxation began with withholding from paychecks. I bet if everyone had to write a weekly or monthly check to the govt to pay taxes... things would be a lot different. I hate to hear idiots say " I'm getting a big tax refund"... like they are getting free money from the govt. Morons don't even realize it was thier own money they are getting back (with no interest of course)

[Kaj]

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On the right, gone are the days of limited govt, low taxes, low spending.

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When do you think these days ended?

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In actuality... not long after Lincoln.... although there have been sporadic pushes back towards this, but taxes and spending have gone so far up its like pissing into the wind.

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Even Jefferson exceeded his constitutionally granted powers once president.

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I was looking at the republican party, of which Lincoln is considered the "father" of.

The evil catalyst for excessive taxation began with withholding from paychecks....

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Did you have a problem with Lincoln forcibly conscripting people into fighting against other states? If not, then it seems you would believe the federal govt owns your body (can do with it what it wishes if it deems it a necessity), in which case your paycheck is a rather trivial loss.

[valenzuela]

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How would you feel about the state if it did not kidnap and cage?

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It wouldnt be a state.

[pokerbobo]

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On the right, gone are the days of limited govt, low taxes, low spending.

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When do you think these days ended?

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In actuality... not long after Lincoln.... although there have been sporadic pushes back towards this, but taxes and spending have gone so far up its like pissing into the wind.

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Even Jefferson exceeded his constitutionally granted powers once president.

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I was looking at the republican party, of which Lincoln is considered the "father" of.

The evil catalyst for excessive taxation began with withholding from paychecks....

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Did you have a problem with Lincoln forcibly conscripting people into fighting against other states? If not, then it seems you would believe the federal govt owns your body (can do with it what it wishes if it deems it a necessity), in which case your paycheck is a rather trivial loss.

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I obviously wasn't around back then to have a problem with Lincoln. If you are asking me if I favor a draft.... then no I don't. If a country is in a situation that requires the use of armed forces, they should get them from vols.

[Felz]

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Why don't more people get this?

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Coz it's an opinion not a fact.
Its an opinion as good as stating, the constitution of the state allows us to escape the prisoners dilemma involved with social interaction.

[Nielsio]

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How is this mindset different for a collectivist voluntarist?

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Well... you tell me!

What actions do you deem immoral that makes the difference between AC and AS? If there are actions that you deem immoral then how do you propose to deal with that? Remember that any way of dealing with it cannot suffer from the same problem.

[Nielsio]

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Yep.

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Why don't more people get this?

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Because they have grown up in a society where the complete opposite is believed AND TAUGHT!

[Nielsio]

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How would you feel about the state if it did not kidnap and cage?

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You mean if it acted like a business? On a voluntary basis?


Then it would cease to be a state. Evidently I am all for voluntary interaction, so a shift of mindset from one to the other is what I am trying to bring about.

[Nielsio]

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I obviously wasn't around back then to have a problem with Lincoln.

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Thomas Dilorenzo - Lincoln's Tariff War
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znFz755kP8s

Thomas Dilorenzo - Abraham Lincoln and the Triumph of Mercantilism in America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJkhBwIf75A


Watch and be amazed.

[ALawPoker]

Isn't voting OK by AC standards if it's in "self-defense"?

So then, couldn't supporting taxes (as the life blood of a minimalist state) be OK, if for no reason other than you feel worldwide sentiment makes states inevitable, and you feel you need one to protect yourself?