Why cannot i CRUSH SSNL? (stats + hands)

J-Lo · #1 08-21-2007, 06:47 AM

Villain is woven 40/30/3 only 78 hands...

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Button ($231.45)
SB ($170.55)
BB ($123.35)
UTG ($410.45)
Hero ($200)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, SB calls $7, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($24) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $15, BB folds, Hero calls $15.

Turn: ($54) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $15, Hero calls $15.

River: ($84) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets $35, Hero calls $35.

Final Pot: $154

Villain is MRgreen1208: No stats... early in session

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UTG ($30.65)
Hero ($50)
CO ($52.70)
Button ($84.75)
SB ($23.50)
BB ($60.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, Button calls $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($6.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.5, Button calls $4.50, SB folds.

Turn: ($15.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $11, Button calls $11.

River: ($37.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $20.5, Hero calls $20.50.

Final Pot: $78.50

Villain is ayoria 13/9/5.75

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MP ($285.75)
Button ($291.10)
SB ($204.45)
Hero ($537.60)
UTG ($262.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $2, 1 fold, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($6) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, MP calls $5, SB folds.

Turn: ($16) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $12, MP raises to $32, Hero calls $20.

River: ($80) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $62, Hero calls $62.

Final Pot: $204

Stats on me

Note on stats:
all hands 4 tabling, except:
(55k hands of NL 50 8 tabling)
(15k hands of NL 100 8 tabling-- went on 13 BI downswing, moved to 8 tablin NL 50)

Tips on improving? Am I too ABC, ABC is supposed to beat SSNL... I have the most trouble vs villains w/ VPIP of 30+ who will splash around postflop and use position well... I sometimes end up tilting vs these players. I do not fair well w/ loose 3 bettors well, i usually just change tables or wait for monsters if they seem wreckless...

Maybe time to hire a coach? But i've felt coaches are for higher stakes, i think i have the nuts and bolts, but i don't see the BIG PICTURE... Someonehelp, i feel i have FGators syndrome (not playing large pots w/o alotta equity)

futuredoc85 · #2 08-21-2007, 09:59 AM

i always found you tough to play against at 100NL back in the day. it may just be handreading that you need to improve on, you may not be valuebetting thin enough (this looks probable given river AF). regardless, 4.33/100 over 240k hands is nothing to sneeze at. Just try to actively discuss hands w/ people as good as or better than you as often as possible and don't over-adjust to 1/2 like many ppl do. PM me your AIM if you want to go into more detail.

jonyy6788 · #3 08-21-2007, 10:04 AM

3.45 is pretty good considering u 8 table

tufat23 · #4 08-21-2007, 10:07 AM

i would assume ure terrible postflop, from the numbers.

get a coach, but no one that costs less than 100/hr

ReptileHouse · #5 08-21-2007, 12:00 PM

Your turn aggression numbers look a bit low to me. Do you fire many second barrels? Semi-bluff the turn with draws?

From your descriptions, it sounds like you feel uncomfortable in reraised pots. Have you read the new NL book yet? The SPR stuff and general comittment discussion is fantastic in that context (good in general, for that matter).

delta k · #6 08-21-2007, 12:01 PM

I expected much worse, tbh. Maybe just running cold?

Kowalski · #7 08-21-2007, 12:11 PM

You're doing fine dude.

NL__Fool · #8 08-21-2007, 01:55 PM

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You're doing fine dude

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Really?

I am in a similair situation, I have just reached over 200K hands at NL100 and I am sitting at 2.68 PTBB/100

I 12 table. I was really frustrated with my winrate. Our winrates are not that far off but I 12 table.

I was under the impression that in 6 max a good player should be hitting 5PTBB/100 or higher, or is that figure for someone who just plays a few tables? Or are those days in the past?

I keep looking at my winrate and think yuck.

Whats a good winrate for someone who 8-12 tables these days at NL100?

How about someone who plays 1-3 tables?

JackAll · #9 08-21-2007, 01:32 PM

H1 - I don't much like this from CO unless BU and blinds are tight. As played, fold river.

H2 - c/c turn.

H3 - c/c flop.

You look ok stats wise. I think you might have changed your play a bit when moving up. Sometimes you become a little too weak tight when moving up. Play your same game, and if you're a bit nervous with so much money on the table, then play tighter, but still aggro. Also, you are basically break even at 200nl. That's really not so bad.

And ABC is good against most players. Against villains of VPIP > 35, just play tighter and dump marginal winning hands - particularly when oop to a LAG. Moving tables (or seats) is a good solution too.