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#11
08-19-2007, 11:16 PM
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Re: You make the call (Floor Decision)
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I don't like not burning in order to get the "correct" river. It doesn't make sense to me. There is a reason for burning cards and the reason to have a burn card here is not alleviated by the fact that there was a double burn on an earlier street. [/ QUOTE ] True, but the reasons for the burn card are insignificant in this situation - with the floor standing there and everyone already watching carefully. 
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#12
08-19-2007, 11:28 PM
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Re: You make the call (Floor Decision)
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[ QUOTE ] I don't like not burning in order to get the "correct" river. It doesn't make sense to me. There is a reason for burning cards and the reason to have a burn card here is not alleviated by the fact that there was a double burn on an earlier street. [/ QUOTE ] True, but the reasons for the burn card are insignificant in this situation - with the floor standing there and everyone already watching carefully. [/ QUOTE ] Actually not. The top card on the deck has been sitting there since the turn was dealt. If it has been compromised in an any way it makes no difference that after the turn betting the floor is standing there.
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#13
08-19-2007, 11:51 PM
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Re: You make the call (Floor Decision)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't like not burning in order to get the "correct" river. It doesn't make sense to me. There is a reason for burning cards and the reason to have a burn card here is not alleviated by the fact that there was a double burn on an earlier street. [/ QUOTE ] True, but the reasons for the burn card are insignificant in this situation - with the floor standing there and everyone already watching carefully. [/ QUOTE ] Actually not. The top card on the deck has been sitting there since the turn was dealt. If it has been compromised in an any way it makes no difference that after the turn betting the floor is standing there. [/ QUOTE ] Caught my own mistake here: No player would have known that this going to be the card in play when they were acting on the turn so i guess its not a problem.
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#14
08-19-2007, 11:54 PM
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Re: You make the call (Floor Decision)
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I don't like not burning in order to get the "correct" river. It doesn't make sense to me. There is a reason for burning cards and the reason to have a burn card here is not alleviated by the fact that there was a double burn on an earlier street. [/ QUOTE ] True, but the reasons for the burn card are insignificant in this situation - with the floor standing there and everyone already watching carefully. [/ QUOTE ] Actually not. The top card on the deck has been sitting there since the turn was dealt. If it has been compromised in an any way it makes no difference that after the turn betting the floor is standing there. [/ QUOTE ] Caught my own mistake here: No player would have known that this going to be the card in play when they were acting on the turn so i guess its not a problem. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#15
08-20-2007, 01:11 AM
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Re: You make the call (Floor Decision)
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I don't like not burning in order to get the "correct" river. It doesn't make sense to me. There is a reason for burning cards and the reason to have a burn card here is not alleviated by the fact that there was a double burn on an earlier street. [/ QUOTE ] So, do you burn a card before the flop when a players card is exposed and he gets another card, or is the exposed card used as the burn?
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#16
08-20-2007, 01:18 AM
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Re: You make the call (Floor Decision)
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[ QUOTE ] I don't like not burning in order to get the "correct" river. It doesn't make sense to me. There is a reason for burning cards and the reason to have a burn card here is not alleviated by the fact that there was a double burn on an earlier street. [/ QUOTE ] So, do you burn a card before the flop when a players card is exposed and he gets another card, or is the exposed card used as the burn? [/ QUOTE ] The exposed card is the burn, but it goes back on top the deck thereby limiting the chance that the next card is compromised. However I personally think a better procedure would be that the exposed cardgets mucked and then you proceed from there burning and turning . . . This order of the cards thing seems to me to be silly superstition no different then the guy at the blackjack table whinning that another players actions disrupte dthe proper order of the cards.
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#18
08-20-2007, 02:47 AM
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Re: You make the call (Floor Decision)
I agree with every word that psandman has posted in this thread.
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#19
08-20-2007, 06:36 AM
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Re: You make the call (Floor Decision)
Am I a bad floor. I ruled that action stayed on the 10, and that the last card burned was the natural river card. But, since the deck, or the burns had the slightest chance of being compromised, that the correct river card, (the last burn, be placed on top of the deck, the deck reshuffled, the dealer burn, (chance of burning the card intended on the river) and bringing the river like a "burn and turn".
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#20
08-20-2007, 09:07 AM
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Re: You make the call (Floor Decision)
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Am I a bad floor. [/ QUOTE ] You might find some people that disagree with the way you did it but the first rule is.. "All floor decisions are final".
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