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Old 08-15-2007, 09:22 AM
stigmata stigmata is offline
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Default Re: calling down with JJ

don't see how you can fold either.

Also, i really think you should be re-raising preflop in this scenario. It looks like UTG limps (e.g. a fish) and is iso-raised (e.g. a competent player).

Thus you should be re-raising for several reasons A) for value as the iso-raise could be a reasonably wide range B) you want it HU rather than giving UTG sweet odds to flop his single overcard C) to balance the times you are stealing iso-raises.
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Old 08-15-2007, 09:51 AM
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wtf would he bluff with here?--i dunno, i could find a fold
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:08 AM
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Default Re: calling down with JJ

Would he bet turn like this with 99/TT? If yes, I think I call. If no/probably not, I think I can find a fold although it's pretty close and gameflow dependant(would he try to bluff you off an 8 here knowing "people dont fold it"?, etc)
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:47 AM
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Flop call good? 3-way another player yet to act, wet board? Flop call seems very marginal.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: calling down with JJ

I don't like the flop call, and I am surprised you don't reraise this PF since you seem to have an aggressive image.

If I played it like this I definitely call turn and river.
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: calling down with JJ

call
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:18 PM
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Default Re: calling down with JJ

flop call is totally standard
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:06 PM
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Default Re: calling down with JJ

I would 3bet this pf all day, he can be isolating the limper here with a fair amount of hands.

TheJared nailed what I was going to say on the flop, I think you have to fold it.

So, up until the river you played your JJ pretty horribly, but now that you got there I guess you have to call???
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Old 08-15-2007, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: calling down with JJ

wtf at raising jacks on this flop?

raising 25o is better than raising jacks
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:00 PM
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Default Re: calling down with JJ

[ QUOTE ]
I would 3bet this pf all day, he can be isolating the limper here with a fair amount of hands.

TheJared nailed what I was going to say on the flop, I think you have to fold it.

So, up until the river you played your JJ pretty horribly, but now that you got there I guess you have to call???

[/ QUOTE ]

edit-- i don't feel like picking a fight...but i don't get your tone. i don't think he played this hand horribly at all and i don't understand your justification for the call.
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