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Old 08-15-2007, 10:14 AM
quirkasaurus quirkasaurus is offline
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2x min raise on the turn be okay ?


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No. A min raise is almost never a good play.


A turn push is best because you are way ahead of his range on the turn and the board is chalk full of draws. It also eliminates the prospect of facing a tricky river decision when a scare card falls.

Getting your money in with the best hand is what the game's all about.

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With a less drawy board, do you still push turn?
My thoughts are I want to maximize what I think
the guy will pay off, with 2 pair, TPTK, etc...

( sorry if I sound dense - - - i've not had good
success getting paid off with my all-ins.
Trying to learn more about +EV, Sklansky dollars,
and all that... )
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Old 08-15-2007, 10:17 AM
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You are probably behind on the turn.

Turn minbet followed by a minraise is the strongest fish line there is. Its difficult to determine how strong his hand actually is since he may think that J9 is the nuts, but I am seriously concerned about straight and try to fill out on the river.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:42 AM
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I don't see how we are behind on the turn here. What could the villain possibly have, given the line he took, that we are behind?
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:48 AM
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Yeah i think you def have to push turn b/c way to many draws for a river card to hit any hand hes holding.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:53 AM
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We're behind of JJ there, but yeah ezzzzzzz puuuuuuuuush turn call riverrrrrr
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:56 AM
C4LL4W4Y C4LL4W4Y is offline
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Its difficult to determine how strong his hand actually is since he may think that J9 is the nuts, but I am seriously concerned about straight and try to fill out on the river.

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thats the key imho, because this guy flat out sucks. 88 beats a lot of what he can possibly have, we kill his call-shove range.
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Old 08-15-2007, 11:56 AM
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I don't think villain ever really has JJ here with this line
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:04 PM
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I don't see how we are behind on the turn here. What could the villain possibly have, given the line he took, that we are behind?

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I really think it clearly says "straight" in my post.
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Old 08-15-2007, 12:06 PM
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Well how you're excepting him to play JJ here.
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