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Old 08-13-2007, 11:17 AM
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foldequity, besides KQdd, what draws are there? from given reads i think this is 56dd like never.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:18 AM
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foldequity, besides KQdd, what draws are there? from given reads i think this is 56dd like never.

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Exactly. Can you assign a range pls? And why would he think I have something that I want to fold?
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:24 AM
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The range i would give basically beats AK.
AA/JJ/55

hands you beat KQdd/KdQx/bluff

KK/QQ would either RR PF or would not raise with a Ace on board
Looks like a fold to me.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: This is just so dumb.... 100nl

Tufat Theorem: Don't fold AK TPTK in 3bet pot.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:29 AM
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Default Re: This is just so dumb.... 100nl

I think range PF is: 2s-Qs, KQ, AJ, AQ, AK

Range after flop, and as played if he dosen't think you're just c-betting, obviously KQ diamonds, AJ, JJ, and 55 (but he could have played you with AA, but doubt it with his stats). Otherwise, if he's throwing the BS-flag, then his PF range stays, but how long have you been playing with this guy? Any showdowns before this hand that are notable?

Still leaning towards fold.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:33 AM
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foldequity, besides KQdd, what draws are there? from given reads i think this is 56dd like never.

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Exactly. Can you assign a range pls? And why would he think I have something that I want to fold?

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AA/KK/QQ/JJ/TT/99/88/77/66/55/AK/AQ/KQs/JQs/TJs/9Ts

Bad nits almost always have a set here. But many decent "Nits", the ones who are solid postflop, are quite capable of abusing their nitty image in spots like this versus regulars, especially a little deeper than usual, and especially if you're capable of folding TPTK here.

Obviously his range is still weighted towards monsters here, but imo no way are you beat often enough for a fold.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:34 AM
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Tufat Theorem: Don't fold AK TPTK in 3bet pot.

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Agreed
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:36 AM
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What about not 3-betting a nit raising UTG?

As played I stick it in here, you have TPTK and if he has JJ, mark it up to a cooler.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:37 AM
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Tufat Theorem: Don't fold AK TPTK in 3bet pot.

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Reasoning for this? Doesn't this require villain to have a certain % of fking around in rr'd pots? I don't think this is necessarily true at these stakes.
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Old 08-13-2007, 11:37 AM
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What about not 3-betting a nit raising UTG?

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God, I totally missed that. A call is standard for me here, I never re-raise a nitty UTG open.
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