11t - Shoving PF w/ AKs First Hand

[Tooorero86]

i dont like it, you wont get paid off by any hand you beat hard(maybe some donktard with AQ would), so i´d prefer to raise it potstyle...

btw: AK is really the only hand you should consider this line with, even then its not the maximum expectation play---

[PokahPokah]

if you raise to t200 and then completly miss the flop you can still get away and be in the sng and if your solid have a good chance of making the money. as one poster said you make your money on the bubble not racing first hand, although it can be good to mix plays up a little bit. the only other hand i think would call and you would have crushed is aq, a lot of the time you will be up against a pp

[ymu]

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btw: AK is really the only hand you should consider this line with, even then its not the maximum expectation play---

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That's not true. If there's a high chance one of them will call, shoving AA preflop is a great move here - not the most +EV move on average over all tables, but hugely +EV compared to a raise at some.

Thread consensus seems good to me: raise it in position and play some poker post-flop. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

[billybeartku]

I do this sometimes (like 20%) but I prefer raising to 180-250 and hopefully get HU at worst case.

[CheeseMoney]

Just remember, there is no need to mix it up here at this buyin level. If you are shoving like 20%, it should be because you are lazy and this is +EV or you think it is the best move, not to "mix it up". And laziness shouldn't be a reason to do anything, but I'm trying to be realistic... tv, too many tables, etc...

[Takeover_inc]

I could never see my self pushing in this spot.

like others have said raise to t200, and decide from there. I would also go easy on the c-bets if miss. Players at this lever gamble so much in the first few hands it seems. If you flop an A or K then lead into them. No reason to get cute and try to slow play TPTK after you build this big of a pot pre.

[KoreanBuffet]

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and play some poker post-flop. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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I am certainly not promoting playing "poker" postflop in an sng [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[ymu]

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and play some poker post-flop. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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I am certainly not promoting playing "poker" postflop in an sng [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

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LOL - I know it's not orthodox, but it's an acceptable strategy when it's more +EV than overbet pushing preflop. If you (not you, a hypothetical you) play so badly post-flop that this isn't true, then you should be in push-fold mode from the getgo.

[santiagoz]

Don´t is spew this raise?
I think a lot times you will lose this raise+cbet, and rarelly the pot will be hu.
In this spot, i prefer limp behind than raise.Coments?

[sence25]

don't bluff the fishes. -> don't cbet multiway pots if you don't hit.