$400NL on Stars...tough river spot

[soah]

there is no reason to control the pot size when you have no current showdown value but have outs against all current better hands

[D.L.M.]

which hand are we discussing? LOL the op i call.

[Renton]

raise more preflop or limp with.

I can't imagine that betting this flop has immediate +EV. If you are gonna bet the flop, you are basically committing yourself to repping a big pair on the turn and betting again.

I have no idea what i do on the river. It has to be close.

[soah]

you win it on the flop a lot and if they call you get a free card 95% of the time instead of facing a turn bet

[Renton]

so this is a standard cbet for everyone?

Because I almost never bet this. I am certain that it doesn't win the pot enough to win as a bluff on its own. I understand that having overs that can hit on the turn, etc. can change that eV, but how does that stack up against the eV of checking and seeing if we hit?

[Mr_Donktastic]

Another vote for raise more preflop or limp.

Flop bet is good but you should bet a bit more. Is this standard size for you? What you you bet if you had TT?

Call river.

[CalledDownLight]

My initial instinct was check turn with the way we got there. Does anyone think this line has merit?

[Kos13]

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My initial instinct was check turn with the way we got there. Does anyone think this line has merit?

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Yeah, I like checking the turn and calling/value betting the river. Bad line?

[D.L.M.]

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My initial instinct was check turn with the way we got there. Does anyone think this line has merit?

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Yeah, I like checking the turn and calling/value betting the river. Bad line?

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very bad imo. the only reason to check the turn is cause if you bet you cant really call an ai, not the case here. build this pot.

[soah]

people at 2/4 fold to c-bets like 97.294% of the time