Defending BB with AXs, KXs, QXs type hands and SB leads out

[StrictlyStrategy]

Okay.

So you call and now the PFR raiser raises and SB calls, you call.

Now the SB donks the 5 on the turn, call again?

[Niediam]

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291,060 games 0.015 secs 19,404,000 games/sec

Board: Kc Th Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 72.283% 50.51% 21.78% 147000 63388.00 { TT, AKs, T2s+, ATo, K2o+, QTo, JTo }
Hand 1: 27.717% 05.94% 21.78% 17284 63388.00 { K4s }

...and I didn't even put QJ in the SB's range.

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Is there a reason you dont have suited kings in villian's range?

Anyhow, I agree that folding is bad. The more interesting question to me is if we should raise or call.

[Niediam]

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Okay.

So you call and now the PFR raiser raises and SB calls, you call.

Now the SB donks the 5 on the turn, call again?

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If the PFR raises the flop then we can probably fold right then.

[Fnord]

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Is there a reason you dont have suited kings in villian's range?

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Board: Kc Th Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 76.625% 60.32% 16.30% 317105 85706.00 { TT, AKs, ATs, K2s+, QTs, JTs, T2s+, AKo, ATo, K2o+, QTo, JTo, T2o+ }
Hand 1: 23.375% 07.07% 16.30% 37173 85706.00 { K4s }

My bad.

Part of the sillyness here is no read is given on the SB. There are players I would make a tight fold to. Fail that, the default play can't be folding.

[danspartan]

The important read is the pfr. SB is largely an unknown at this point. pfr is going to raise just about anything here, even its just to find out where or free card play on ace/gutter chase. Anyone that just flat calls (especially 2 bets) is your typical trip slow player.

I can see calling the 1 bet and mucking to a raise....

[Fnord]

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The important read is the pfr. SB is largely an unknown at this point. pfr is going to raise just about anything here, even its just to find out where or free card play on ace/gutter chase.

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You so silly.

[timmer]

need additional input