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Old 08-03-2007, 03:44 PM
OwChS OwChS is offline
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Default Re: What? You just called my 4bet?! Now what?

1) Small bet or chk flop & shove against raise on turn or bet turn
2) Chk chk chk chk stop reraising with AKo out of position.
3) Ez Shove.


# 1 ) I think you can get more value out of AK by chking the flop, giving your opponent a free card. He may take a stab w/ 1010-JJ-QQ and you can shove, If you bet small on the flop though he may chk shove with QQ or something. I highly doubt he has a flush draw.
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:46 PM
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stop reraising with AKo out of position.

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ugh, why has msnl gotten so terrible lately.
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:47 PM
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2) Chk chk chk chk stop reraising with AKo out of position.

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LOL
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:48 PM
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Default Re: What? You just called my 4bet?! Now what?

Isn't his range for calling your 4-bet literally, AA/KK/AK/QQ? With you being that nitty, wouldn't it be better to check through the flop. If you're ahead he's drawing to 2 outs, and if you're behind, you're [censored] anyways. So checking gives the possibility of getting some value from QQ.

This makes sense to me, but I think I kinda suck in 3-bet, 4-bet pots so lmk if my thinking is right. thanks
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: What? You just called my 4bet?! Now what?

What is the point of constantly reraising out of position with AKo? Flop comes 789 you bet $135 to take it down he shoves with 1010, 910, JJ+ and you've just lost like what, 20 BB? lol.. seriously, at least if you flat call a RR your hand can be somewhat disguised. It's always obvious you have AK when you 4-bet out of position unless you're pretty tight/solid. Anyone with a brain will outplay you on that flop. loL
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: What? You just called my 4bet?! Now what?

A lot of tags simply don't show up with AK in these spots, so disagree with jfish that we're giving up a lot of equity by c/f hand 2. Unless he has spewy tendencies, I don't like a bet there. I like checking all 3 hands.
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: What? You just called my 4bet?! Now what?

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Isn't his range for calling your 4-bet literally, AA/KK/AK/QQ? With you being that nitty, wouldn't it be better to check through the flop. If you're ahead he's drawing to 2 outs, and if you're behind, you're [censored] anyways. So checking gives the possibility of getting some value from QQ.

This makes sense to me, but I think I kinda suck in 3-bet, 4-bet pots so lmk if my thinking is right. thanks

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Thank you. This is exactly my point with hand # 1.
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:53 PM
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:00 PM
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Duude you made 89k last month, tell him to STFU !
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:07 PM
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Default Re: What? You just called my 4bet?! Now what?

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1) Small bet or chk flop & shove against raise on turn or bet turn
2) Chk chk chk chk stop reraising with AKo out of position.
3) Ez Shove.


# 1 ) I think you can get more value out of AK by chking the flop, giving your opponent a free card. He may take a stab w/ 1010-JJ-QQ and you can shove, If you bet small on the flop though he may chk shove with QQ or something. I highly doubt he has a flush draw.

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This made me feel a lot better about losing money today. thx
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