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Old 08-03-2007, 01:38 PM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Default Re: My line w/AA

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He c/c and checked turn, don't worry about a set.

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c/c flop, c/r turn can be a set, why not?

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Because the range of hands with which he will put his money in is wide enough - sets, JJ+, Tx - that you will make more money by a bet/bet/bet line than worrying about being beaten.
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: My line w/AA

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He c/c and checked turn, don't worry about a set.

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c/c flop, c/r turn can be a set, why not?

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Because the range of hands with which he will put his money in is wide enough - sets, JJ+, Tx - that you will make more money by a bet/bet/bet line than worrying about being beaten.

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I see what you were saying. For the record, I absolutely do not think his range is a set or air, lol.

I thought you were saying that a set is not in his range because he c/c the flop and checked the turn. I disagreed with that.
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:54 PM
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If you frequently double-barrel with air, you should bet this turn for sure. If you don't very often, this is fine as long as you call.

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fallacious argument in this case

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Ok...why? I pointed out that if you double barrel frequently (which I do), you should be betting this turn under almost all circumstances. If you do not, then it is fine to check behind for pot control sometimes, but you have now underepped your hand and should call the river bet.

Tell me why this reasoning is off.

Also: lol at using fallacious [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: My line w/AA

bet
bet
bet
profit
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:25 PM
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bet
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no reason not to bet turn
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:29 PM
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^^^
Indeed
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: My line w/AA

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If you frequently double-barrel with air, you should bet this turn for sure. If you don't very often, this is fine as long as you call.

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fallacious argument in this case

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Ok...why? I pointed out that if you double barrel frequently (which I do), you should be betting this turn under almost all circumstances. If you do not, then it is fine to check behind for pot control sometimes, but you have now underepped your hand and should call the river bet.

Tell me why this reasoning is off.

Also: lol at using fallacious [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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I think what he means is that in this particular spot you will have some fixed double barrel frequency, and you don't have to bet AA for a double barrel w/ air to be legit if you balance your ranges correctly. Because this is pretty much WA/WB, but with the off chance he has like 78 or some other random 6-7 outers.
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:36 PM
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I'm betting this for value, not for some metagame [censored]
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:39 PM
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I'm betting this for value, not for some metagame [censored]

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what i mentioned has nothing to do with metagame
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:51 PM
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I'm betting this for value, not for some metagame [censored]

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what i mentioned has nothing to do with metagame

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Elaborate further, please.

I think you are getting at concepts that GP and aba use a lot, about basically playing millions of hands and evaluating what kinds of hands you are putting in money with, and whether or not the range of hands you are doing it with is +EV (i.e., ONE villain's perception of this range does not matter much), but I am not sure.

Am I on the right track?
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