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08-02-2007, 06:00 AM
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Re: NL400 - WTF Stop Calling?
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i don't understand what you're afraid of, just stick it in [/ QUOTE ] Wrong thread. Anyways, I just shoved the river. I obviously wasn't going to fold anywhere I just wanted to see what my bet should have been. With the responses I have seen so far I have been leaning towards ~$100 block/value bet for next time. I figure if he has a hand like 98/J9/88 he won't be raising with an AF of .5 but will still pay me off on hands I beat. And since no one posts hands that they win, he had 88. I got trapped, yo. 
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#13
08-02-2007, 06:12 AM
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Re: NL400 - WTF Stop Calling?
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[ QUOTE ] i don't understand what you're afraid of, just stick it in [/ QUOTE ] Wrong thread. Anyways, I just shoved the river. I obviously wasn't going to fold anywhere I just wanted to see what my bet should have been. With the responses I have seen so far I have been leaning towards ~$100 block/value bet for next time. I figure if he has a hand like 98/J9/88 he won't be raising with an AF of .5 but will still pay me off on hands I beat. And since no one posts hands that they win, he had 88. I got trapped, yo. [/ QUOTE ] Don't worry, next time he'll be trapping with AA.
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#15
08-02-2007, 07:53 AM
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Re: NL400 - WTF Stop Calling?
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[ QUOTE ] Wow, this is kind of a sick spot. What hands do we actually beat? 79/A9 are the only ones i think. But I don't think he bets so we might lose a little value with a check. He could easily have 98/9J/9Q here. But we can't exactly bet/fold because he could raise with another str8. I dunno, it looks like he sux, so I prob am willing to get in by betting $200. Yeah, I know my reason might seem weak sauce. Curious about a better response tho. [/ QUOTE ] The fact that you are even considering that we are behind here is insanely -ev. If he happens to have us beat here, pay him, its +ev in the long run. The real question is, do we check raise this river. This board is absolutely terrifying and even a 0.5 af will probably bluff at it, possibly shove. Its a really tempting checkraise, but i put in a bluff inducing bet. He only has 230 left, so if we put in a V-bet of about 50% of the pot, he won't shove cause he'll have less than a minraise left. I bet $90 here instead of $100, for a few specific significant reasons: a) He will call $90 slightly more than $100, almost enough to make the two amount neutral ev b) He will bluff-shove into $90 infinitely more than he will into $100. clffs: bet 90 [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, obv we are not folding. I'm curious about what hands a non-moron would pay us off with? There are ALOT of trips that turned into full houses here.
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#17
08-02-2007, 08:03 AM
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Re: NL400 - WTF Stop Calling?
ive read the replies and results, personally i'd say it was very unlikely he had the 9 given the draw heavy flop, so what my first deduction was likely AdJd, flopped the nut flush draw turned a top pair.
I guess you can put him on 88-QQ, gutshot+FD, pair of Js+FD
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#18
08-02-2007, 08:51 AM
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Re: NL400 - WTF Stop Calling?
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He's passive enough that a weak block bet should be enough to see a cheap showdown. I bet 100 on the river and fold to a raise. The only other option I'd consider is c/f here. [/ QUOTE ] wtffffffffffffffffff what i am thinking on the river here is, I will get all of my money in here. What is the best way to get him to put the maximum amount of money in the pot here if his hand is worse than mine. i like c/r or just vtowning him for like 200.
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