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Old 08-01-2007, 08:38 PM
Jackrabbit Slim Jackrabbit Slim is offline
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Default Re: good ,bad push 55 turbo ?

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Sounds weird that regulars should have wide calling ranges here. As regulars, they should be better than that? I'd definitely be more worried pushing against randoms.

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I play a few levels lower, but as soon as the regulars know you're a regular yourself they assume every push is any two cards and snap insta calls with Q8s or K3o. Might be a bit tighter when you're pushing from the button though. I also may have run into extra evil regulars [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:40 PM
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learn icm before posting plz

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I do know ICM, thanks very much. However I seriously doubt your ability to enter the numbers correctly. How big % of our hands does SnGPT or whatever you use say you should push with?

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I used 22+,A5s+,A9o+,KJo+,QJo+,JTs+ as their calling range

We can push top 70%, pushing 54s here is +0.5%
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: good ,bad push 55 turbo ?

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I play a few levels lower, but as soon as the regulars know you're a regular yourself they assume every push is any two cards and snap insta calls with Q8s or K3o. Might be a bit tighter when you're pushing from the button though. I also may have run into extra evil regulars [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Hehe, yeah there are quite a few of those on the 54s as well. However, the better ones know not to sacrifice their own value to "punish" others. Of course, if the stealing goes out of hand (like some regulars push 100% in some situations) your calling range obviously widens.
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: good ,bad push 55 turbo ?

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Hehe, yeah there are quite a few of those on the 54s as well. However, the better ones know not to sacrifice their own value to "punish" others. Of course, if the stealing goes out of hand (like some regulars push 100% in some situations) your calling range obviously widens.

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There are no good regulars at the $22 level (myself included) [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:52 PM
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Default Re: good ,bad push 55 turbo ?

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I used 22+,A5s+,A9o+,KJo+,QJo+,JTs+ as their calling range

We can push top 70%, pushing 54s here is +0.5%

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That's like top20% or something for them to call? Which would mean you'd get called more than a third of the time, possibly even more. Is that really a top 70% push? I VERY seldom get recommendations for 70% pushes from the button with even stacks on bubble/semibubble when using SnGwiz, have to check when I get back home to my computer what they say about this hand.
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:56 PM
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Oh fwiw i just assumed there were antes in this hand, if there aren't its a fold.
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:58 PM
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Oh fwiw i just assumed there were antes in this hand, if there aren't its a fold.

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Heh. No, no antes.
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Old 08-02-2007, 02:14 AM
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Default Re: good ,bad push 55 turbo ?

no one advice from guys 109+ [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] . Or i need to change title 215 turbo instead 55 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 08-02-2007, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: good ,bad push 55 turbo ?

It's fine. These hands figure to play well 5-handed with evenish stacks.
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Old 08-02-2007, 05:39 AM
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It's fine. These hands figure to play well 5-handed with evenish stacks.

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How is that? Because both cards are low? I mean, the fact that it's a suited connector counts for almost nothing.

I think you'd have to assign ridiculously tight calling ranges to your opponents for this push to be profitable.
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