Baseball: rest of the season analysis post-trades - Page 2

kyleb · #11 07-31-2007, 09:26 PM

Wagner/Lidge/Dotel is probably slightly better than Okajima/Gagne/Papelbon, but it ain't by much.

Benholio · #12 07-31-2007, 09:38 PM

How about Charlton, Dibble, and Myers?? The Nasty Boys!

THAY3R · #13 07-31-2007, 09:39 PM

Am I crazy for liking Rivera Ramirez Chamberlain more?

Azizal · #14 07-31-2007, 09:52 PM

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Wagner/Lidge/Dotel is probably slightly better than Okajima/Gagne/Papelbon, but it ain't by much.

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For fun:

2004 Billy Wagner: 86 IP, 52 H, 23 BB, 105 K, 1.78 ERA
2004 Octavio Dotel: 87 IP, 53 H, 31 BB, 97 K, 2.48 ERA
2004 Brad Lidge: 85 IP, 60 H, 42 BB, 97 K, 3.60 ERA

2007 Jon Papelbon: 38 IP, 23 H, 11 BB, 45 K, 2.15 ERA
2007 Hideki Okajima: 52 IP, 30 H, 12 BB, 44 K, 0.87 ERA
2007 Eric Gagne: 33 IP, 23 H, 12 BB, 29 K, 2.16 ERA

I didn't post it, but the Astros trio also gave up more HR. Obviously it's harder to give up HR's in Boston, tho.

I give the edge to the Astros trio because of the overwhelming difference in IP. Even with 2 months left in the year, the Astros trio will have recorded far more outs. I am aware Gagne and Paps missed time this year.

Azizal · #15 07-31-2007, 10:01 PM

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Am I crazy for liking Rivera Ramirez Chamberlain more?

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not crazy, just really in love with your favorite team. I can understand that. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Rivera is still ungodly good, but the other two haven't exactly earned it yet. You could probably argue this next season, cause Joba and EW appear to be wow.

CrazyPsycho · #16 07-31-2007, 10:05 PM

I wouldn't mind Soriano/Dotel/Mike Gonzalez. Damn you injuries. Of course they probably don't get Dotel if they have Gonzo.

jtg51 · #17 07-31-2007, 10:11 PM

Wetteland, Rivera and Nelson was a pretty amazing trio for the Yankees in '96. They combined for 290 K and 91 BB in 245 2-3 innings and gave up 16 HR.

FlyWf · #18 07-31-2007, 10:34 PM

Nelson had an ERA over 4 that year, come on, that was really just Rivera having an absolutely sick 107 IP/130K year.

Other notable bullpens were the 2001 Mariners of Rhodes/Nelson/Sasaki and the 1995 Indians with Plunk/Taveraz/Mesa.

kyleb · #19 07-31-2007, 10:43 PM

Ooooh, Wetteland was ridiculous.

bottomset · #20 07-31-2007, 10:50 PM

well MN didn't get anyone to replace Punto, play LF or DH [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

but a 4game winstreak has them within 5games of the WildCard which is catchable, though seems very very unlikely to leapfrog Clev/NYY/Seattle

I kind of hoped they would have traded Hunter and set up for a big run next year, hopefully with Liriano back