"ahead on the flop"-equity?

[Gonso]

133,784,560 (had to look it up). OVerall you'll win a little over 75m hands in the end with the T9s hand.

[qpw]

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No, I did, you just don't understand it. His equity on the flop is equal to his equity in the hand overall. If he has 51% equity on the flop, preflop, on the turn, whatever. Doesn't matter. He has 51% equity in the hand. You can't have a showdown without all five on the board cards at the end.

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I was confused by his question.

If he means what he appears to ask in the OP he seems to be asking if PS can do exactly what PS is intended to do.

However, it seems that he's got you confused as well:

He asks:

[/b][/i]on how many flops am i ahead (probability of winning >50%)
on how many flops am i behind (probability of winning <50%)[/b][/i]

And you reply:

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Run your calc then eake the total number of possible 7 card combos (hand + board) and pretty much divide them up proportionate to win % - different than equity since sometimes the hands will tie.

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But how can a probability multiplied by the total number of hand combinations over 7 cards possibly answer the question of how many flops he is ahead on?

That indicates to me that you are thoroughly confused.

[Gonso]

No, again, you just don't get it. You are confusing being ahead in terms of "equity" with simply having a "higher-ranked" hand on a given street. They are not the same thing.

[Alex-db]

If there were 10 flops and 2 had 70% equity and 8 had 0%, his overall equity is 14%, but he is 'ahead' on 20% of flops.

Can't do that on Pokerstove.

[Gonso]

No, but you can do them individually and average them. Definitely not claiming Stove can do everything, but it can do what OP asked

[qpw]

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No, again, you just don't get it. You are confusing being ahead in terms of "equity" with simply having a "higher-ranked" hand on a given street. They are not the same thing.

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This is really rather sad!

You have made a monumental error in your last substantive post and yet you can't see it even when it's are pointed out to you.

OP asked:

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I have XX, villain has YY.

There are Z possible flops

on how many flops am i ahead (probability of winning >50%)
on how many flops am i behind (probability of winning <50%)


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Which will give him two numbers that add up to the total number of possible flops.

You have told him to perform a calculation that will give him a number that is a proportion of the total number of possible hands.

Then you have accused me of confusing two things which are entirely irrelevant to your error.

[Schpacko]

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If there were 10 flops and 2 had 70% equity and 8 had 0%, his overall equity is 14%, but he is 'ahead' on 20% of flops.

Can't do that on Pokerstove.

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Thats exactly what i'm talking about. But again: Is there a program or something i could use to evaluate this number?

[qpw]

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No, but you can do them individually and average them. Definitely not claiming Stove can do everything, but it can do what OP asked

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Do them individuallly?

Are you suggesting that he goes through every possible flop combination (100's of thousands)?

Why don't you just admit that you've got it wrong?

[pzhon]

Gonso, on what percentage of flops is 72o ahead of AA sharing both suits? I worked out the value myself, but the computation was tedious, and I'd like to see how to use PokerStove to do it instead. However, it doesn't look possible. If you can't come up with a figure using PokerStove, please admit it.

[mvdgaag]

That would be a nice feature... Also if they would let you filter to keep cards out, choose paired flops only, flops with a FD/SD, etc... Would be nice for preflop strategy analysis.