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Old 07-24-2007, 06:32 PM
HumbertHumbert HumbertHumbert is offline
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Default Re: I\'m sorry Ms. Jackson. I\'M JUST FOR REALLZZZ

your flop bet is too weak. you should bet like 50 on the flop.
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:36 PM
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Default Re: I\'m sorry Ms. Jackson. I\'M JUST FOR REALLZZZ

His bet is okay, I would bet like 43$ personally. Vs a 17/10/2 in a re-raised pot this is not a very scary board, there isn't much need to protect so you don't need to c-bet as much as usual.
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:40 PM
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betting 50 on this flop would be attrocious :/
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:53 PM
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17/10? Would he really do this with QQ/JJ? AhKh isn't possible. I don't know, I feel like this is a set or AA a lot of the time.

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Give him the very tight range of basically 22, 99+:


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.581% 50.88% 01.70% 14103 472.50 { 99+, 22 }
Hand 1: 47.419% 45.71% 01.70% 12672 472.50 { KdKh }

I think this has to be A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] sometimes.

Do you seriously want to fold this? Cause that's gross.

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Not stacking off 175bb with KK on this flop vs a nittish tag is gross? The QQ/JJ should be much more discounted than KK+/TT/99/22 because a 17/10 doesn't stack off 175bb with them in this situation like ever ime.

Against this range we have 38% equity and we need 41%: QQ+,TT-99,22,AhQh,AhJh

And leaving JJ out equals QQ/JJ being 50% less likely than KK+/TT/99/22 and that's definately a fair assumption. I think villain is raising a set on a drawy flop like this that's superb for stacking a high PP very often. And this deep I think he'll often peel the flop with a draw, but there's really not that many draw combos anyway.
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: I\'m sorry Ms. Jackson. I\'M JUST FOR REALLZZZ

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17/10? Would he really do this with QQ/JJ? AhKh isn't possible. I don't know, I feel like this is a set or AA a lot of the time.

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Give him the very tight range of basically 22, 99+:


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.581% 50.88% 01.70% 14103 472.50 { 99+, 22 }
Hand 1: 47.419% 45.71% 01.70% 12672 472.50 { KdKh }

I think this has to be A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] sometimes.

Do you seriously want to fold this? Cause that's gross.

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Not stacking off 175bb with KK on this flop vs a nittish tag is gross? The QQ/JJ should be much more discounted than KK+/TT/99/22 because a 17/10 doesn't stack off 175bb with them in this situation like ever ime.

Against this range we have 38% equity and we need 41%: QQ+,TT-99,22,AhQh,AhJh

And leaving JJ out equals QQ/JJ being 50% less likely than KK+/TT/99/22 and that's definately a fair assumption. I think villain is raising a set on a drawy flop like this that's superb for stacking a high PP very often. And this deep I think he'll often peel the flop with a draw, but there's really not that many draw combos anyway.

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huh?

You start by saying NOT stacking off is gross, and then end by saying most draws flat call and sets raise?

I'm confused as usual.
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:04 PM
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huh?

You start by saying NOT stacking off is gross, and then end by saying most draws flat call and sets raise?

I'm confused as usual.

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I think you missed the questionmark in the end of the first sentence. I think this is a pretty marginal situation, I'm leaning towards folding.
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:06 PM
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huh?

You start by saying NOT stacking off is gross, and then end by saying most draws flat call and sets raise?

I'm confused as usual.

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I think you missed the questionmark in the end of the first sentence. I think this is a pretty marginal situation, I'm leaning towards folding.

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Yep [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: I\'m sorry Ms. Jackson. I\'M JUST FOR REALLZZZ

shove
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:01 PM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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I never play KK like this in this spot. Interested to see if you were good or not.
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Old 07-24-2007, 10:07 PM
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Default Re: I\'m sorry Ms. Jackson. I\'M JUST FOR REALLZZZ

I think this is really close, but I think I might lean towards a fold.. what were results im really curious
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