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Old 07-24-2007, 12:59 PM
monkover monkover is offline
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Default Re: NL50 is there any worse flop for AA?

prefer a c/c on the flop. i just donīt see any value in cbetting. which worse hands call us? how many legit draws are there in villainīs hand?
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:46 PM
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Default Re: NL50 is there any worse flop for AA?

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prefer a c/c on the flop. i just donīt see any value in cbetting. which worse hands call us? how many legit draws are there in villainīs hand?

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I agree that there arent alot of hands villian can have that we can bet for value agianst BUT:

c/c flop ok? what is our turn/river action un-improved I agree with your statement but c/c down line seems so gross.
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:53 PM
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prefer a c/c on the flop. i just donīt see any value in cbetting. which worse hands call us? how many legit draws are there in villainīs hand?

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I agree that there arent alot of hands villian can have that we can bet for value agianst BUT:

c/c flop ok? what is our turn/river action un-improved I agree with your statement but c/c down line seems so gross.

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well on a blank turn iīm obv betting my hand. Itīs stong but vulnerable and on the flop we donīt have a lot of equity vs villainīs range. this changes dramatically on a blank turn though. so bet our strong hand.
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:00 PM
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Default Re: NL50 is there any worse flop for AA?

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prefer a c/c on the flop. i just donīt see any value in cbetting. which worse hands call us? how many legit draws are there in villainīs hand?

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I agree that there arent alot of hands villian can have that we can bet for value agianst BUT:

c/c flop ok? what is our turn/river action un-improved I agree with your statement but c/c down line seems so gross.

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well on a blank turn iīm obv betting my hand. Itīs stong but vulnerable and on the flop we donīt have a lot of equity vs villainīs range. this changes dramatically on a blank turn though. so bet our strong hand.

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k but that goes agianst your original statement that there arent many lagit draws villian can have so I dont think a blank turn really helps our equity much.

not trying to bust on you Im just trying to figure out a way to not bet this flop that makes sense.
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: NL50 is there any worse flop for AA?

what he have btw?

AQ?
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: NL50 is there any worse flop for AA?

lead turn and evaulate river.
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Old 07-24-2007, 04:31 PM
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Default Re: NL50 is there any worse flop for AA?

WOW!! thanks for all the great input, I realy could not see many worse hands call a bet, so maybe even the flop was a c/c, but that just seemed so weak and it is possible he is drawing so a bet is ok there I think.
He bets the blank turn realy weak, so I get the feeling my hand is good there and glad to see villian checks behind on the river.

Here a similar hand against a 18/10/3.7 over 323 hands, again how do you like my play?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $116.30
UTG+1: $25.45
CO: $48.90
Button: $49.25
SB: $51.85
Hero: $105.55

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $1.75</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6</font>, CO calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($12.25, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $9</font>, CO calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($30.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($30.25, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $21.75</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $73.75
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