100NL, KK and confused about c-betting

[Capone]

exactly we want to make the worse hands snap fold do we not? Why not take a shot at it. We want to take a shot to see if he has the ace. I think not c-betting is passive. Of course give up to the call or raise. AT least re-eval.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

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Rep the A

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Why?

Oh, and FWIW, villain auto-bet-pot the turn (via checkbox). If he didn't bet in that manner, I'd call a lot of flop bets.

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Where do you play? I haven't heard of an auto-bet-pot function

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Where do you play? I haven't heard of an auto-bet-pot function

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Party.

[CobraGoat]

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I cbet because if I hit my flush its a bit more disguised. Also I find out if he has the A.

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huh? you are cbetting with the thought of hitting your backdoor flush? you are cbetting to find out if he has an A? WHY?

[Kasane]

doesn't c-betting, while costing us a few dollars, save us from the mistake of folding the best hand?

If we're going to chk here, are we checking made hands sometimes?

I don't like. I think I would cbet as normal. Villains range is wider than Ax, and his betting range when we chk is almost infinite.

If we're going to chk this sometimes, then I think we have to c/c a decent percentage of the time having induced a bluf -- though I'm a little lost on what to do after that on a two-tone board, especially against a villain with half a brain who knows I probably wouldn't chk anything stunning on a two-tone board.

In position, this is often a chk, villain donks turn; call; villain chks or bets river and we re-eval. Oop, it's trickier as there the extra street to worry about with a pot getting bigger.

[CobraGoat]

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exactly we want to make the worse hands snap fold do we not? Why not take a shot at it. We want to take a shot to see if he has the ace. I think not c-betting is passive. Of course give up to the call or raise. AT least re-eval.

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why would you ever want to make a worse hand fold? think about that.... you want worse hands to CALL and better hands to FOLD. here, no better hand is folding.

[Capone]

We want to take down the pot isnt not c-betting here playing to weak?

[kitchma]

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Rep the A

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Why?

Oh, and FWIW, villain auto-bet-pot the turn (via checkbox). If he didn't bet in that manner, I'd call a lot of flop bets.

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It seems to me that betting accomplishes a few things, (i)it allows us to set the price for seeing the turn, (ii)since an A is well within our range it takes down the pot a lot of the time, (iii) it charges flush draws to see the turn, and (iv) it prevents the button from bluffing us off our hand.

I'm not sure what we accomplish with a check. Pot control?

[CobraGoat]

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We want to take down the pot isnt not c-betting here playing to weak?

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weakness....is irrelevant. i've said it like 10 times now...we want to maximize the value of our hand when we are ahead and minimize our losses when we are behind...to villains range. leading this flop OOP does NOT accomplish either.

[ChicagoPoker]

I always c-bet here.