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Old 07-19-2007, 12:34 PM
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: My Report on shortstacking bots NL500-NL2000

BTW this is one of the reasons why the min buy-ins need to go up at all NL tables. It's almost impossible to write a really good deep stack NL bot, but it is very very easy to write a great short stacking NL bot at < 20 BB or so.
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: My Report on shortstacking bots NL500-NL2000

so you are saying that they bought in 10BB deep and would openshove 30% of their hands to limps, what would they do for raises?
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Old 07-19-2007, 08:01 PM
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Default Re: My Report on shortstacking bots NL500-NL2000

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BTW this is one of the reasons why the min buy-ins need to go up at all NL tables. It's almost impossible to write a really good deep stack NL bot, but it is very very easy to write a great short stacking NL bot at < 20 BB or so.

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20BB is an entirely different game than 10BB.
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Old 07-19-2007, 08:42 PM
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The SNG bots weren't on Pokerstars, they were on Party.

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Old 07-20-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: My Report on shortstacking bots NL500-NL2000

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BTW this is one of the reasons why the min buy-ins need to go up at all NL tables. It's almost impossible to write a really good deep stack NL bot, but it is very very easy to write a great short stacking NL bot at < 20 BB or so.

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20BB is an entirely different game than 10BB.

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Yeah, a 10 BB bot is a lot easier, but IMHO it would be possible to write a profitable bot at 20 BB (it would be a lot more complex because you have to play the flop, but bots are getting better and better). If the min buying was 40 BB or so, it would be much much harder to write an unexploitable bot.

Basically you have
10 BB = preflop only
20 BB = flop play
40 BB = turn play
80 BB = river play
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Old 07-20-2007, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: My Report on shortstacking bots NL500-NL2000

Guys...I busted him. I snapped a picture of the bot!

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Old 07-20-2007, 12:46 AM
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roblin,

Very interesting stuff. Thanks for sharing. The other bot detector here is an idiot.


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Old 07-20-2007, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: My Report on shortstacking bots NL500-NL2000

Hi there roblin,

I´m from Valencia, and a good friend of all the people you mention, and can assure you they are real people (at least as real as me and you :P).

I will pass them this thread and suggest them to reply it.

Cheers, Sandokan.
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Old 07-20-2007, 07:19 AM
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Hi there roblin,

I´m from Valencia, and a good friend of all the people you mention, and can assure you they are real people (at least as real as me and you :P).

I will pass them this thread and suggest them to reply it.

Cheers, Sandokan.

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If this is true I am very sorry for giving false accusation. I have stated why I came to that conclusion and I hope you can understand why I was so convinced and think most people would have come to the same conclusion given my information. I know it is possible I am wrong but I believe that it's very probable that they are bots.

Looking forward to hear their side of the story.
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