Zigmund spewing off chips to Benyamine

[luckyjimm]

He's playing Antonius heads up and is 50k up so far, e.g.

Full Tilt Poker Game #2984989030: Table Oboe (heads up) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 14:55:16 ET - 2007/07/18
Seat 1: Ziigmund ($64,996.50)
Seat 2: Luigi66369 ($25,799.50)
Luigi66369 posts the small blind of $200
Ziigmund posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Luigi66369 raises to $1,200
Ziigmund calls $800
*** FLOP *** [8h 6c 6d]
Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to act
Ziigmund checks
Luigi66369 bets $2,000
Ziigmund raises to $5,600
Luigi66369 has 15 seconds left to act
Luigi66369 raises to $19,200
Ziigmund raises to $32,800
Luigi66369 calls $5,399.50, and is all in
Ziigmund shows [8s Kc 6s 3c]
Luigi66369 shows [9h 5s Ks 7h]
Uncalled bet of $8,200.50 returned to Ziigmund
*** TURN *** [8h 6c 6d] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [8h 6c 6d 7c] [Ah]
Ziigmund shows a full house, Sixes full of Eights
Luigi66369 shows a straight, Nine high
Ziigmund wins the pot ($51,598.50) with a full house, Sixes full of Eights
Luigi66369 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $51,599 | Rake $0.50
Board: [8h 6c 6d 7c Ah]
Seat 1: Ziigmund (big blind) showed [8s Kc 6s 3c] and won ($51,598.50) with a full house, Sixes full of Eights
Seat 2: Luigi66369 (small blind) showed [9h 5s Ks 7h] and lost with a straight, Nine high

[luckyjimm]

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Aba said in his blog that Ziigmund is a really good PLO player.

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Oh yes, he is. But he is also capable of being a really bad player! There's a fine line between hyper-aggression and spewage, and Zigmund sometimes goes on tilt and crosses it. In the first hand I posted, doesn't he have to think "Why did Benyamine call the flop, and how does that affect what I'm going to do on the turn? Is my hand strong enough that I want him to call the turn - which I realise he will do - and if not, shouldn't I get away from it?

[luckyjimm]

Small pot but quite interesting - the power of the mini-raise bluff and bluff-catcher!

Full Tilt Poker Game #2985092111: Table Oboe (heads up) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 15:09:10 ET - 2007/07/18
Seat 1: Ziigmund ($115,392.50)
Seat 2: Luigi66369 ($31,625)
Ziigmund posts the small blind of $200
Luigi66369 posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Ziigmund raises to $1,200
Luigi66369 calls $800
*** FLOP *** [Ks 4s Ts]
Luigi66369 checks
Ziigmund bets $2,400
Luigi66369 has 15 seconds left to act
Luigi66369 raises to $7,200
Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to act
Ziigmund raises to $14,000
Luigi66369 has 15 seconds left to act
Luigi66369 is sitting out
Luigi66369 has timed out
Luigi66369 folds
Uncalled bet of $6,800 returned to Ziigmund
Ziigmund mucks
Luigi66369 has returned
Ziigmund wins the pot ($16,799.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $16,800 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Ks 4s Ts]
Seat 1: Ziigmund (small blind) collected ($16,799.50), mucked
Seat 2: Luigi66369 (big blind) folded on the Flop

[luckyjimm]

Full Tilt Poker Game #2985147919: Table Pantheon (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 15:16:26 ET - 2007/07/18
Seat 1: MangoJuice ($4,795)
Seat 2: Ziigmund ($74,681)
Seat 3: KaiBuxxe ($60,546.50)
Seat 4: DaFool ($16,000)
Seat 5: Luigi66369 ($109,977)
Ziigmund posts the small blind of $200
KaiBuxxe posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Luigi66369 folds
MangoJuice folds
Ziigmund raises to $1,200
KaiBuxxe calls $800
*** FLOP *** [3s Js 7c]
Ziigmund bets $2,400
KaiBuxxe calls $2,400
DaFool: might hit and run as i am testing a new connection
*** TURN *** [3s Js 7c] [9c]
Ziigmund bets $7,200
KaiBuxxe calls $7,200
*** RIVER *** [3s Js 7c 9c] [6d]
Ziigmund bets $21,600
DaFool: so dont complain when i take your money and run off
KaiBuxxe has 15 seconds left to act
KaiBuxxe calls $21,600
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ziigmund shows [Ts 8s Td 8c] a straight, Jack high
KaiBuxxe mucks
Ziigmund wins the pot ($64,798) with a straight, Jack high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $64,800 | Rake $2
Board: [3s Js 7c 9c 6d]
Seat 1: MangoJuice (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Ziigmund (small blind) collected ($64,798)
Seat 3: KaiBuxxe (big blind) mucked
Seat 4: DaFool is sitting out
Seat 5: Luigi66369 didn't bet (folded)

[humP]

He is tilting at the moment, at least he has said that in the chat multiple times.

[luckyjimm]

Maybe hands like the first one are calculated - it gives him a tricky image, and he gets paid off more when he has a hand.

Full Tilt Poker Game #2985183609: Table Eginton (6 max) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 15:21:05 ET - 2007/07/18
Seat 1: MangoJuice ($10,198)
Seat 2: Luigi66369 ($38,200)
Seat 3: EatMyAcesSucka ($400)
Seat 4: Ziigmund ($55,640)
Seat 5: David Benyamine ($47,986)
Seat 6: KaiBuxxe ($99,471)
EatMyAcesSucka posts the small blind of $200
Ziigmund posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
David Benyamine calls $400
KaiBuxxe raises to $1,800
MangoJuice folds
Luigi66369 folds
EatMyAcesSucka calls $200, and is all in
Ziigmund calls $1,400
David Benyamine calls $1,400
*** FLOP *** [8h 6s 5d]
Ziigmund checks
David Benyamine checks
KaiBuxxe checks
*** TURN *** [8h 6s 5d] [4d]
Ziigmund bets $5,800
David Benyamine calls $5,800
KaiBuxxe folds
*** RIVER *** [8h 6s 5d 4d] [2c]
Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to act
Ziigmund bets $17,400
David Benyamine calls $17,400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Ziigmund shows [Th 9c 9s 7h] a straight, Nine high
David Benyamine mucks
Ziigmund wins the side pot ($50,600) with a straight, Nine high
EatMyAcesSucka mucks
Ziigmund wins the main pot ($1,597) with a straight, Nine high
EatMyAcesSucka adds $4,000
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $52,200 Main pot $1,600. Side pot $50,600. | Rake $3
Board: [8h 6s 5d 4d 2c]
Seat 1: MangoJuice didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Luigi66369 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: EatMyAcesSucka (small blind) mucked
Seat 4: Ziigmund (big blind) collected ($52,197)
Seat 5: David Benyamine mucked
Seat 6: KaiBuxxe folded on the Turn

[eurythmech]

[ QUOTE ]
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"if you're gonna call a shove you may as well shove yourself"

- some guy

and this hand is pretty standard stuff...

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No, that hand is pure spew. Stupid to bet pot with air out of position there - a check-raise would be better, if you're wanting to get all your chips in on a bluff. And his draw on the turn isn't strong enough to get it in.

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Care to elaborate on how to CRAI bluff with 24k in a 54k pot?

[luckyjimm]

Full Tilt Poker Game #2985205978: Table Oboe (heads up) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 15:23:58 ET - 2007/07/18
Seat 1: Ziigmund ($118,166)
Seat 2: Luigi66369 ($47,198)
Luigi66369 posts the small blind of $200
Ziigmund posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Luigi66369 raises to $1,200
Ziigmund raises to $3,600
Luigi66369 calls $2,400
*** FLOP *** [Qs 2h Qh]
Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to act
Ziigmund checks
Luigi66369 has 15 seconds left to act
Luigi66369 bets $5,200
Ziigmund calls $5,200
*** TURN *** [Qs 2h Qh] [4c]
Ziigmund checks
Luigi66369 has 15 seconds left to act
Luigi66369 bets $17,600
Ziigmund raises to $70,400
Luigi66369 calls $20,798, and is all in
Ziigmund shows [6h Kc 8c Kh]
Luigi66369 shows [8s As Qc 9s]
Uncalled bet of $32,002 returned to Ziigmund
*** RIVER *** [Qs 2h Qh 4c] [5h]
Ziigmund shows a flush, King high
Luigi66369 shows three of a kind, Queens
Ziigmund wins the pot ($94,395.50) with a flush, King high
Luigi66369 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $94,396 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Qs 2h Qh 4c 5h]
Seat 1: Ziigmund (big blind) showed [6h Kc 8c Kh] and won ($94,395.50) with a flush, King high
Seat 2: Luigi66369 (small blind) showed [8s As Qc 9s] and lost with three of a kind, Queens

[luckyjimm]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
"if you're gonna call a shove you may as well shove yourself"

- some guy

and this hand is pretty standard stuff...

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No, that hand is pure spew. Stupid to bet pot with air out of position there - a check-raise would be better, if you're wanting to get all your chips in on a bluff. And his draw on the turn isn't strong enough to get it in.

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Care to elaborate on how to CRAI bluff with 24k in a 54k pot?

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I'm talking about on the flop, not the turn, but you're right - it isn't deep enough to bluff.

But a flop checkraise all-in or check-fold are surely much better than betting out. Or you honestly think he has to go broke here, with air?

[luckyjimm]

Full Tilt Poker Game #2985242552: Table Oboe (heads up) - $200/$400 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 15:28:37 ET - 2007/07/18
Seat 1: Ziigmund ($166,362.50)
Seat 2: Luigi66369 ($38,998.50)
Ziigmund posts the small blind of $200
Luigi66369 posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Ziigmund raises to $1,200
Luigi66369 raises to $3,600
Ziigmund calls $2,400
*** FLOP *** [8s 5c Td]
Luigi66369 has 15 seconds left to act
Luigi66369 checks
Ziigmund bets $7,200
Luigi66369 has 15 seconds left to act
Luigi66369 raises to $28,800
Ziigmund raises to $50,400
Luigi66369 calls $6,598.50, and is all in
Ziigmund shows [9c Tc Qd 5d]
Luigi66369 shows [4h Ah 6d Ac]
Uncalled bet of $15,001.50 returned to Ziigmund
*** TURN *** [8s 5c Td] [7d]
*** RIVER *** [8s 5c Td 7d] [3h]
Ziigmund shows two pair, Tens and Fives
Luigi66369 shows a straight, Eight high
Luigi66369 wins the pot ($77,996.50) with a straight, Eight high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $77,997 | Rake $0.50
Board: [8s 5c Td 7d 3h]
Seat 1: Ziigmund (small blind) showed [9c Tc Qd 5d] and lost with two pair, Tens and Fives
Seat 2: Luigi66369 (big blind) showed [4h Ah 6d Ac] and won ($77,996.50) with a straight, Eight high