50NL JJ facing 4bet preflop

[Capone]

Against unknown is it still at fold at 50NL?

[Lego05]

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Against unknown is it still at fold at 50NL?

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This hand is at 50NL.

[Capone]

I know I'm saying even at 50 NL you would fold JJ.

Yeah I know what your saying though against an unkown JJ is usually behind or at best a coinflip to a 4-bet.

At 50 NL people will 4bet 1010.

people hardly ever 4bet TT or JJ at 50NL. IMO, at this level, a 4 bet is usualy AA/KK, AKs, QQ in that order.

[Capone]

Yeah when 4bet your right it usually indicated a big PP or AKS.

[Lego05]

I haven't run into a TT 4bet that I can remember and I've played 200K hands at 50NL. I routinely fold QQ-, AK- to 4bets unless I have a read on the guy or it's a button/blind battle against someone I know is a good player (likely 2+2) or sometimes if it's a blind vs. blind battle.....well or of course if it's against a shortie.

[Capone]

Yeah, I mean 100bb deep, and no reads you have to assume your beat.

[iwa]

I like a fold here because his range has you dominated. Your odds are not good enough for set value. DERP!