NL50 - Squeezish flop check-raise vs 2 TAGs

[Genz]

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genz i think his line looks exactly like AKhh

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If you are sitting at the table and not reading a HH, you won't think that, I'm pretty sure, actually.

[blah-blah-blah]

what is OP c/r'ing the flop with that he 3-bet pre except AKhh? AA/KK? why wouldn't he just lead? do u check AA/KK on rag flops in a three-way 3-bet pot?

[Genz]

Maybe you're right. But I'd definitely think of more than just AKs if I were in one of villain's position, esp. I one of the villains were playing aggressively lately.

[ajmargarine]

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do u check AA/KK on rag flops in a three-way 3-bet pot?

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Sure, why not.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $56.10
Hero (BB): $84.90
UTG: $101.10
MP: $52.15
CO: $42.80
BTN: $23.20

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $1.75</font>, CO calls $1.75, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $7.25</font>, MP calls $5.50, CO calls $5.50

Flop: ($22) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $10.00</font>, CO calls $10.00, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $77.65</font>, MP calls all-in for $34.90, CO calls all-in for $25.55
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to Hero

Turn: ($147.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players - 3 All-In)

River: ($147.35) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 3 All-In)

Pot Size: $147.35 ($3 Rake)

CO had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Tens) and LOST (-$42.80)
MP had Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Tens) and LOST (-$52.15)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Tens) and WON (+$92.20)

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nh aj but the flop texture is completely different in OP's hand. 345 two tone is way different from T96 rainbow. I'm not saying its bad to c/r w/ AA/KK on rag flops. its something people should be doing for balance but I can't see myself checking w/ AA/KK in a three bet pot on a 345 two tone board.

[Genz]

why not? when these guys call your preflop raise, there is a great chance that they had PPs that they played for set value that now have turned into overpairs and that they now want to overplay. Like the 66 guy.

[ajmargarine]

In the 345 hand, you can play your AKs face up and it don't matter. You want to get all-in on that flop. There's almost always going to be a 88-QQ out there (given preflop action) that will bet putting you on AK that gave up. So, crai, get it in with your bazillion outs. Show your AhKh before they call. They'll think they are ahead. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Peter Harris]

nitty: this isn't a squeeze play imo. Terminology war?

hand: A1 perfik.

[Genz]

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Show your AhKh before they call. They'll think they are ahead. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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Is that allowed in live games or is your hand dead? Is it considered an angle shoot? That's a pretty mean trick to pull on uneducated players. I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] it.

[dhdell]

great flop for yoru ahnd. since he is a TAG, guess you can say PP is a lrage part of his UTG PFR range, so nice check. C/R AI is pretty. howd it end?