Rebuy and add ons again

[aditya]

This is the problem I always have. Say last hand before break, you go all in, get called and lose, get the double rebuy and addon, and risk being at a significant chip disadvantage compared to the rest of the table?

I've seen many good peeps not rebuy in this situation. So, what's the verdict?

[Austiger]

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This is the problem I always have. Say last hand before break, you go all in, get called and lose, get the double rebuy and addon, and risk being at a significant chip disadvantage compared to the rest of the table?

I've seen many good peeps not rebuy in this situation. So, what's the verdict?

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You shouldn't be at that big a disadvantage. You usually would have about 50 BBs.

[illini43]

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This is the problem I always have. Say last hand before break, you go all in, get called and lose, get the double rebuy and addon, and risk being at a significant chip disadvantage compared to the rest of the table?

I've seen many good peeps not rebuy in this situation. So, what's the verdict?

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You shouldn't be at that big a disadvantage. You usually would have about 50 BBs.

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You would have 5000 chips at 75/150 blinds, or a little over 33BB's. I make a judgement call if this happens to decide if I will continue playing (stacks at the table, how much I'm in for, prizepool, level of play at my table, etc.)

[Body Man D]

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This is the problem I always have. Say last hand before break, you go all in, get called and lose, get the double rebuy and addon, and risk being at a significant chip disadvantage compared to the rest of the table?

I've seen many good peeps not rebuy in this situation. So, what's the verdict?

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You shouldn't be at that big a disadvantage. You usually would have about 50 BBs.

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You would have 5000 chips at 75/150 blinds, or a little over 33BB's. I make a judgement call if this happens to decide if I will continue playing (stacks at the table, how much I'm in for, prizepool, level of play at my table, etc.)

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I've gotten deep (final 2 tables) in probably 8 or 10 rebuys, and in about 1/2 of those I had the minimum at the first break. With the varying stack sizes you can often double up fairly quickly and be right back in the tournament. People tend to play looser than normal in the first half hour or so after the rebuy period ends. Therefore I look at it as a chance to buy into a juicy tournament with a big prize pool for a minimal amount of money.

So in a nut shell........ what Badger said.

[gameplay]

i think we need some mathematics here,theories are a lot.

[Body Man D]

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i think we need some mathematics here,theories are a lot.

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I just opened last nights 3r as an example. Let's assume you lose the last hand before the rebuy period ends. You can double rebuy and add-on for $9.00 and have 5,000 chips.

There were 2,645 entires for 3,967,500 chips.
6717 rebuys for 10,075,500 chips
and 1546 add-ons for 3,092,000 chips

Total chips in play -- 17,135,000
Total prize pool -- $32,725.00
Value per chip -- $0.001910

Value of 5,000 chips -- $9.55
Cost of 5,000 chips -- $9.00

So just purely by math it is worth doing. Then add the fact that people don't adjust to the varying chip stacks at the table and play too loose post rebuy perio etc. then it's definately worth doing. Not to mention the fact that the field is just plain horrible etc.

In other words..... what Badger said.

[Silent A]

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This is the problem I always have. Say last hand before break, you go all in, get called and lose, get the double rebuy and addon, and risk being at a significant chip disadvantage compared to the rest of the table?

I've seen many good peeps not rebuy in this situation. So, what's the verdict?

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I won my first MTT after this happened to me. OK, it was only 200 players and it was 6-max PLO, but it's not that big a problem.

Also, when else can you buy in to a tourney rake free while getting more chips/$-paid than the field?

[jgunnip]

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i think we need some mathematics here,theories are a lot.

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I just opened last nights 3r as an example. Let's assume you lose the last hand before the rebuy period ends. You can double rebuy and add-on for $9.00 and have 5,000 chips.

There were 2,645 entires for 3,967,500 chips.
6717 rebuys for 10,075,500 chips
and 1546 add-ons for 3,092,000 chips

Total chips in play -- 17,135,000
Total prize pool -- $32,725.00
Value per chip -- $0.001910

Value of 5,000 chips -- $9.55
Cost of 5,000 chips -- $9.00

So just purely by math it is worth doing. Then add the fact that people don't adjust to the varying chip stacks at the table and play too loose post rebuy perio etc. then it's definately worth doing. Not to mention the fact that the field is just plain horrible etc.

In other words..... what Badger said.

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Also those 5k chips are worth a lot more than $9.55.

but yea, this thread should be been over after badger's post.

[Ontario_Tory]

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This is the problem I always have. Say last hand before break, you go all in, get called and lose, get the double rebuy and addon, and risk being at a significant chip disadvantage compared to the rest of the table?

I've seen many good peeps not rebuy in this situation. So, what's the verdict?

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Bit of a contradiction here, IMHO...

[Dunkman]

Yeah this is getting silly. Just rebuy, if you can't afford to keep rebuying, you can't afford the tournament. The only exception would be if you're just horribly underrolled for it and decide you want to take a shot at a big payday. Like if you have a 1k roll, and decide to take a shot at the 55k. I'm sure just playing it like a FO is +EV and since that roll can't tolerate the variance of playing it like a rebuy I'm sure it would be fine. That's the only case where I could see not rebuying.