KK standard fold?

[goat_beard]

So let me get this straight, if SB bets flop we CALL for info...then if he bets turn we are obv beat and fold...yeah that makes a lot of sense, thanks for teaching me to "Play poker".

[Kermit]

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So let me get this straight, if SB bets flop we CALL for info...then if he bets turn we are obv beat and fold...yeah that makes a lot of sense, thanks for teaching me to "Play poker".

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lolz

you just might want to consider bukem knows what he talking about. i hear he plays good poker.

[goat_beard]

Im sure that some people find this useful, but I would rather take a different line than cold calling flop then folding turn bet. Seems like a huge leak to me.

[Casper05]

I don't think I'd ever raise this flop vs a 16/12/1.5

[goat_beard]

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I don't think I'd ever raise this flop vs a 16/12/1.5

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So are we supposed to cold call...obv we cant fold right now.

Also SB never leads with AQ here?

[Casper05]

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Also SB never leads with AQ here?

[/ QUOTE ]Sure he could have AQ, so why push him out with a massive raise? Raising (with plans to fold to a push) turns our hand into a bluff. If we can confidently put SB on a draw and thus call his push then meh whatever.

[goat_beard]

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Also SB never leads with AQ here?

[/ QUOTE ]Sure he could have AQ, so why push him out with a massive raise? Raising (with plans to fold to a push) turns our hand into a bluff. If we can confidently put SB on a draw and thus call his push then meh whatever.

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Lets pretend then that we dont raise and we cold call...the pot is now 42$ going to the turn.

A) Turn blanks 2h and SB bets?
A1) Turn blanks 2h and SB checks?
B) Turn comes Jc and SB bets?
B1) Turn comes Jc and SB checks?
C) Turn is Q and SB bets?
C1) Turn is Q and SB checks?

Also letting BB see a turn when he is described as massive donator changes the dynamics of cold calling here a lot. I think that if it was HU calling/raising would be a lot closer but with BB in this I think we HAVE to raise.

[oyvindgee]

does anyone in this thread know what cold call actually means?

[FoldEqu1ty]

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Also SB never leads with AQ here?

[/ QUOTE ]Sure he could have AQ, so why push him out with a massive raise? Raising (with plans to fold to a push) turns our hand into a bluff. If we can confidently put SB on a draw and thus call his push then meh whatever.

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Lets pretend then that we dont raise and we cold call...the pot is now 42$ going to the turn.

A) Turn blanks 2h and SB bets?
A1) Turn blanks 2h and SB checks?
B) Turn comes Jc and SB bets?
B1) Turn comes Jc and SB checks?
C) Turn is Q and SB bets?
C1) Turn is Q and SB checks?

Also letting BB see a turn when he is described as massive donator changes the dynamics of cold calling here a lot. I think that if it was HU calling/raising would be a lot closer but with BB in this I think we HAVE to raise.

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You say this as if we're HU with SB

But we're three-way. And he's first to act. So regardless of what peels if he makes any serious stab at the pot we simply GTFO in a split second - he's not bluffing / semi-bluffing two players OOP with only one card to come.

[goat_beard]

calling this flop bet and then folding turn bet is horrible...period