One player threatens another with violence

[killsadie]

what do you think he meant by "guys like you" ?????????????????

[mingorama]

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what do you think he meant by "guys like you" ?????????????????

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Yeah, I'm amazed that was glossed over. The guys' actions were unacceptable. Every casino has plenty of guys that like to needle and jab at guys VERBALLY. However once physcial violence (or verbal threats of physical violence) come into the mix, the line has been crossed.

[Budget Boy]

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what do you think he meant by "guys like you" ?????????????????

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I took it to mean: "I'm a racist d**k"
Great to know this guy's a judge, lol.

[youtalkfunny]

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He claims to be a employed as a judge, but I find that hard to believe based on his actions tonight.

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What's hard to believe?

Americans universally despise lawyers and politicians. What do you get when you cross a lawyer with a politician? A judge!

I'll never understand why judges are so revered, while lawyers and politicians are loathed. That's like hating bread, hating cheese, and loving cheese sandwiches.

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Floor finally comes over, has to physically hold Craig back with the help of another dealer

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This is the funniest part of the post. Judge doesn't need to be held back, until someone finally gets between him and his adversary. THEN he starts acting like he wants to fight.

[mrjetguy]

Throw the lunatic out?

[Kurn, son of Mogh]

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what do you think he meant by "guys like you" ?????????????????

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Yeah, I'm amazed that was glossed over. The guys' actions were unacceptable. Every casino has plenty of guys that like to needle and jab at guys VERBALLY. However once physcial violence (or verbal threats of physical violence) come into the mix, the line has been crossed.

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Clearly in this case, the guy was a racist jerk who should have been thrown out.

But it brings up a bigger question about when "needling" crosses the line of propriety.

I've a lot of people, usually scrawny dorks, who think that they can say anything they want, hounding other players relentlessly, because they're able to hide behind the "no threat of violence" concept.

Don't get me wrong. Going ballistic and punching some one out is always wrong (or at least counter-productive), but I also feel that calling the floor over to complain about the needler is pretty whiny as well.

At what point after putting up with verbal abuse does the clock run out on the needler and it become OK for the person getting needled to calmly say "OK, you've made your point. keep it up and you and I are going to go take a walk and discuss this in private."

After all, are we MEN playing poker, or GIRLS playing hopscotch?

If we want it to be a GENTLEMAN's game, well, gentlemen don't verbally abuse one another ala the Mouth and Sheiky.

Just my $0.02

[swope]

re: the dealer not getting involved physically, thats very standard.

generally speaking you want your security to handle *any* altercation requiring physical intervention, not the dealers, the floor, etc. there are insurance reasons for this as well as the obvious interest in not having employees get in the habit of putting themselves in harms way when they have not been trained how to do so.

[Crane]

Solution:

One player threatens another with physical violence to the point of getting out of his chair and approaching the other player--he goes home for the night. Right on the spot. Security is called--he goes home.

If he aruges or fights or keeps it up it then becomes a week. This usually ends it.

Sometimes people just need a cooling off period. Tempers flare--money is lost. It happens.

How is the guy a racist? Because the other guy is black? LOL. The only color these guys are worried about is green.

(By the way, I used to play in a place that handled these kinds of situations just like this. Fights, abusive arguments, and other rif-raf resulting in obnoxious behavior. They were very quick to give people one-day suspensions. It nipped a lot of nonsense right in the bud, because a lot of these players had to drive 30 miles to play and they didn't want to go home--so they knoced it off--quick.)

[AngusThermopyle]

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3 seat is Reggie, a young black male probably ....Craig, ex-military, mid-forties,

.... including gems such as "I have been putting GUYS LIKE YOU in jail for 20 years!"

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"GUYS LIKE YOU" == "Young know-it-all punks who think they can do anything they want when they haven't done squat for their country"

I love how everybody assumes that if Mr X is in an altercation with a black person, he is automatically a racist.


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(apparently these two had been jawing back and forth earlier, I had only been at the table for 20 minutes).
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...and gives both players a "final warning" whatever that means and nothing else.

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So, there is a backstory to this. We have no idea if Reggie had been instigating for hours before OP showed up. "Final warning" seems to imply that there had been previous warnings. And it seems that Craig quieted down after that, since there is no "rest of the story"

[SmartBugger]

If the guy made a serious threat, call the police. The police will come and investigate.... the Casino have ABSOLUTLY no say whatsoever if the police can file a report or not. That will send a clear message to the idiot and to the casino that his behavior was over the line.