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Old 07-09-2007, 02:12 AM
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Default Re: Hand from ME 1b from technologic

Do we have to shove this? Isn't it possible to be something like 10,000?

I would normally give up on the turn or the river.
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Old 07-09-2007, 02:40 AM
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i am not known to bluff all in without anything, i've probably pulled this move around 1-2 times prior in my life before. given that johnnybax seemed to know who i was, even though i didn't know who he was, i thought my fold equity was huge against any non-nuts hand.

betting 10k is like giving him 10k for free, imo.
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Old 07-09-2007, 02:41 AM
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to all who say my hand looks like a bluff, what hands do i have that i am bluffing with, given my image?
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:10 AM
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I hope you had the Ace of spades.
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:17 AM
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If you have the ace of spades IMO this is a great play. I know personally that Bax especially will almost always raise the turn here with two pair or better. On the river if you have the ace of spades, he has a flush very very rarely, given his range preflop for calling with two spades in his hand, the fact that he raises (or atleast, very often raises) the turn with two pair or better, his call on the flop, and the spades on the board (Qs, 9s) [this limits his possible spades to KJs, JTs basically]. You frequently bluff him off one pair here, IMO.

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Old 07-09-2007, 06:49 AM
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If you have the ace of spades IMO this is a great play. I know personally that Bax especially will almost always raise the turn here with two pair or better. On the river if you have the ace of spades, he has a flush very very rarely, given his range preflop for calling with two spades in his hand, the fact that he raises (or atleast, very often raises) the turn with two pair or better, his call on the flop, and the spades on the board (Qs, 9s) [this limits his possible spades to KJs, JTs basically]. You frequently bluff him off one pair here, IMO.

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Hero does not have the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
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Old 07-09-2007, 10:49 AM
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to all who say my hand looks like a bluff, what hands do i have that i am bluffing with, given my image?

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what hands would you legitimately value shove on this river, that you would have played like this pf, flop and turn?
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Old 07-09-2007, 12:08 PM
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Yeah I like this a whole lot more with the ace of spades and I would be a lot more prone to do this move with it. Then we could rep AK spades, AA with the ace of spades,etc.

If Im villain Im having a hard time putting hero on something and if Bax has the ace of spades (AQo) I think you get looked up here a ton of the time.

I figure you'd check/call with an overpair here.

Would you do this with QQQ, JJJ, or 777 now that the flush hit?

I would think you'd be more likely to check/call or value bet around 9000-11000.
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Old 07-09-2007, 01:33 PM
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keep in mind hero does not know this is bax
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Old 07-09-2007, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: Hand from ME 1b from technologic

I am keeping in mind that hero doesn't know its Bax but what does that really mean? I think its more relevant that Bax is in the hand and is a competent hand reader and can understand that your line isn't really consistent with much of anything but AKs.

If he has a hand that has the ace of spades its ugly for you and your getting called.

Don't rule out J10 spades that picked up the pair with the flush draw on the turn for him, either.

810 spades is also very probable.
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