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Old 07-09-2007, 02:58 AM
Humble Pie Humble Pie is offline
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Appreciate all the responses....actually, the "hack" player at our table (one of the best players in our game) had pocket Kings....which he had to think was the best hand since he "knew" the other player couldn't have had pocket Aces given the preceding conversation.

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I think the slimy player here is the guy w/ KK who tried to use the extra info to his advantage. Why should he be able to have extra info in the hand. The player who recieved the partially exposed Ace should be under no obligation to comment about the card, any info he gives should be 1.) optional, and 2.) doesn't have to be truthfull. No reason that the player who recieved the partially exposed card (from dealer error) should suffer since no body knew for sure what the card was.
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:31 AM
Khabbi Khabbi is offline
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I don't think you should play with casino tournament rules in a friendly home game.

So if it were my game, even if the card was exposed, you'd still be allowed to play it.

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I am of the completely opposite opinion as this. The best way to keep a game freindly is to play with a set of rules that have been defined by people who know what they are doing in there interest of the game.

This way, if anyone doesn't understand a rule, it's their own fault. I find that the worst cases of resentment and bickering come due to house rules that were not properly communicated.

I Print off a copy of Robert's Rules and keep them on hand at any home game. All my players know that if they are ignorant of the rules, it's their own fault and there is zero bickering about rules at my game.

It may seem strict, but in the end everyone appreciates someone who runs a fair game over someone who "let's things go". Cause when you're the one getting over-ruled for "fun" it just isn't fun.

In OP's example, that card is exposed and dead as soon as people agree that it's been flashed. Why? Because sometimes poker players lie (see OP's example).
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Old 07-09-2007, 09:45 AM
psandman psandman is offline
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No reason that the player who recieved the partially exposed card (from dealer error) should suffer since no body knew for sure what the card was.

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The problem here isn't that the player with the ace might suffer, its that all his opponents suffer. If you start allowing a player to keep an exposed card when he wants to and and trade it in when he doesn't like it he gets a huge advantage.

If its an Ace I'll keep it and tell them its not an ace. If its a Trey then I'll take another card . . .
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Old 07-09-2007, 05:03 PM
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What would happen in a casino is the card would have been replaced to begin with It doesn't matter if a player can name that card.f a card flashes it flashes and the card gets replaced. The player receiving the card doesn't get an option to play it. You don't ask if anyone saw the card or can identify it. If someone thinks it was exposed it is exposed.

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X2. Pretty basic really. We would also turn the card up for all to see, to ensure all have the same knowledge about the card. Unless this was one of the first two cards dealt, in which case we have a misdeal.
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