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07-09-2007, 01:10 PM
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Re: neteller required a SSN for americans, but no SIN for canadians
The SSN is required for tax purposes; since Canada does not tax your gambling profits a SIN is not necessary.
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07-09-2007, 01:37 PM
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Mods, please lock this thread ... Its utter stupidity is overwhelming
This thread's topic is as dead as Julius Caesar.
There IS no Neteller for US or Canadian poker players to use, period. It may not be "used" for any other purpose, I believe. (That is is not "associated directly with gambling profits" is irrelevant as it is not available for any use in the US or Canada.)
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07-09-2007, 01:41 PM
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I smell a rat, ..... a post hoc rat named Neteller.
LOL, it is NOT required for anything as you canNOT open a US account.
(a SSN never WAS required for "tax" purposes, in any event. In its settlement with the DOJ, Neteller however might USE it post hoc to rat out players to the IRS, bit Neteller did NOT previously report accounts to the US tax authorities.)
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07-09-2007, 02:03 PM
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Re: neteller required a SSN for americans, but no SIN for canadians
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The SSN is required for tax purposes; since Canada does not tax your gambling profits a SIN is not necessary. [/ QUOTE ] i don't understand the inference and logic here. the services that netller in and itself provide have no relevance to individual's tax liabilities. further, neteller is not a regulatory agency of any sort and is not empowered by usa statutes and regulations to administer and enforce our existing tax law, and are neither mandated by usa law to collect and/or withhold monies for tax purposes. but if you're saying that neteller is obligated by usa law to collect SSNs as part of filing, say 1099, with the irs at the end of the year, then i would appreciate if you could cite me the exact statutory law and/or regulations specifically saying that neteller or an entity like it is obligated to collect individuals' SSNs for the purpose of filing with the irs.
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#16
07-09-2007, 02:09 PM
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Re: I smell a rat, ..... a post hoc rat named Neteller.
milton i thought it would be clear that my question was presented to look for answers in past-tense. i think it is an interesting topic. i'm glad that some people seem to want to explore the issue also.
[ QUOTE ] (a SSN never WAS required for "tax" purposes, in any event. [/ QUOTE ] do you have a guess as to what it was required for or why it was required then? this is the gist of my original question.
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#17
07-09-2007, 03:15 PM
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Re: neteller required a SSN for americans, but no SIN for canadians
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Did Neteller always require a social security number from their US customers? [/ QUOTE ] When I signed up they did not require a social. A couple of years later they required the full number and then changed it to the last four digits a year or so after that.
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#18
07-09-2007, 03:22 PM
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Re: I smell a rat, ..... a post hoc rat named Neteller.
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do you have a guess as to what it was required for or why it was required then? this is the gist of my original question. [/ QUOTE ] It's probably a good idea to pull someone's credit report when offering 'instacash' options to gamblers.
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#19
07-09-2007, 10:26 PM
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Re: neteller required a SSN for americans, but no SIN for canadians
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my question is why was there a double standard, why was it necessary (and for what specific reason) for neteller to request a SSN from americans but not a SIN from canadians? [/ QUOTE ] When I signed up for Neteller, I had a phone conversation with one of their representatives as a part of the account setup process. I remember asking why they wanted my SS number. His response was that it was required for Neteller's compliance with the US Patriot Act.
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