I don't know how to Beat LAA

[Buzz-cp]

Call on the river with A-hi more often.

Buzz

[NIX]

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(1) You HAVE to tighten up. The most crucial and expensive mistake is trying to out-LAG the LAG. Quite frankly, he's probably better at it than you are.

(3) You have to have position on the maniac. If he's on your left, you'll be playing OOP against aggressor most of the time. . It's more difficult and less profitable. Perfect position is on your immediate right or one seat off - you'll see more flops cheaper when he raises you on the button and you are in BB.
If I don't have good position on the maniac, I don't mind leaving the table.

(4) Your biggest weapon - isolation reraise with your good hands. You want to be heads-up against him with better cards. By definition - it's long-term +EV. It's almost three-bet or fold, if this guys is first in. This is why position is very important.

(5) Tighten up PREFLOP, but loosen up POSTFLOP. Don't be afraid to call him down with high pairs. Jam better hands.

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To add to/counter some of these ideas, if you are in position on the LAA and think you can get it heads up with him after he raises (or perhaps threeway with another bad player), you should loosen up your three betting range. Because his cards are on average worse than say a good TAG, you can widen your range and still be ahead of his range. For example, if I'm in LP, I may 3-bet a TAG opening in MP with 88+/ATs+/AJ+/KQs, but if it's a LAA opening, my range will be closer to 55+/A9s+/AT+/KJs+/KQ.

A flip side to this is if you're OOP against the LAA. It's a little trickier to pull off, but if there are tighter players after him and you see he's 3-betting you a lot, you can tighten up a little bit or possibly even open with your normal raising range hoping he's going to try to isolate you, often times with a worse hand than yours. From here, you're in the same situation as before, being heads up against the LAA. The downside is you're OOP so you can't get the last raise in if you wanted to. The upside is he has the initiative since he got the last preflop raise in and is probably going to bluff on at least two streets if you let him.

Once you've gotten to the flop, if it's heads up, this is where you can sit back and let him bluff his stack to you. If you have a good hand like TPTK or something, go ahead and push back. If you're lucky, your LAA of choice will think that he knows you know he may not have a hand and are trying to get him to fold. To keep that from happening, he'll push back harder which is great when you have something big. If you don't have much of a hand, be it a small pocket pair or AJ high or something and he is determined to bet all three streets if you don't raise him, this may be a situation where it's profitable to just call him down and let him keep trying to get you to fold with his K9s.

Yes, playing this way can be awfully swingy and frustrating at times, but it's been pretty good to me. I try to get it one on one with the guy and not spew when it's a toss up, but get him to spew when I'm the favorite. I'm not sure if this is the proper way to think about these situations, but I run it through my head like this. If he opens in MP and I 3-bet and successfully isolate him with ATs, I may feel I'm a small favorite at the time of my raise, like say 58/42 if his range is any ace/pair/2 broadway/suited king/some suited connectors. I'm now pretty much ready to showdown at this point. He donks the flop (or check/raises or whatever. It doesn't matter because I know he does it all the time) and I whiffed. Well, I was a favorite before and if I know he's betting his entire range now, I'll just call all three streets UI unless the board gets really connected. I'll win my fair share (since I was ahead when my showdown decision was made) and it's slightly better than flipping coins (plus I can toss in another few bets if I hit).

Hope this helps.

[RemyXO]

NIX, right on the money.
OP, note the paragraph on OOP play, I didn't want to encourage it in my post. But it's in essence the same idea - try to have the maniac iso-reraise himself.

[Befolder]

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LO -mother f'n L!! Nice pic.

I have this same problem, good advice, but I hate turning into a calling station.

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I never get it when people say this.

There is too much of this bet/raise is the only play crap. There are times against certain opponents when the value call is the perfect weapon. If you like money, you will call these guys. If you don't, go ahead and raise and watch them fold when you have them beaten. If you just call, they will likely bluff into your better hand time and time and time and time and time and time... again.

Every one of those 'times' is a BB you aren't getting when you raise them early and they fold.

Calling is a bluff stopper. It frustrates the hell out of maniacs when keep calling their bets with only bottom pair and they showdown K high. Plus, it feels pretty damn good to get the better of those monkeys.

[Befolder]

Didn't want to quote your whole post NIX, but I fervently agree.

[RemyXO]

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Calling is a bluff stopper. It frustrates the hell out of maniacs when keep calling their bets with only bottom pair and they showdown K high.

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And you get called names in the chat box [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
"You effing donkey calling down with that sh*t wtf is wrong with you stupid monkeys can't play poker you momma"

[NIX]

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Didn't want to quote your whole post NIX, but I fervently agree.

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Thanks for the comments Remy and Befolder.

[Befolder]

That's my favorite part Remy, when they cuss you out for calling that river w/ ace high and winning. If I could post pics in the chat window, I'd throw this one at them.

[RemyXO]

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AWESOME LOLCAT!!!!!!!

[Maxinho]

tnx guys a think I understand this concept, I was facing a guy 93/60/7 just now, and I simple take all his money

he enter in PartyPoker 0.25-0.50 with 30 dollars and I finish with 40 dollars I simple take all, I value bet on the river with high pairs and won like 3 pots with Ace high, only calling, the interesting is that he don't change at all.