General Go Discussion Thread

[Voj]

Is it a free software you're using durron ?
Would like to try for fun..

[durron597]

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Is it a free software you're using durron ?
Would like to try for fun..

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i downloaded 2 things, gGo and gnugo 3.6

they're the first two things that pop up on a "gGo" and "gnugo" google search respectively

[fnord_too]

There also used to be a free internet go server and several clients for it (like xEyes or something for *nix). That was about a decade ago, not sure of the current state.

[Neil S]

There are several. IGS is the best, KGS is weird but works if you hate IGS for some reason and just want inferior competition, and NNGS (if it still exists, I don't know) never seemed to have many people on it when I looked.

[Voj]

OK.I've just downloaded that and I'll take a shot at a 9*9.
Thanks a lot guys [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

[Stephen H]

I'm posting the raw contents of the .sgf file between myself and clown after discussion with Neil and Durron - hopefully they can help sort it out.

(;GM[1]FF[4]AP[qGo:1.5.4]ST[1]
SZ[9]HA[0]KM[0.5]PW[clown]PB[steve]

;B[ee];W[cf];B[fc];W[ef];B[ff];W[df];B[fg];W[gc];B[gd];W[fd]
;B[ed];W[dc];B[eg];W[hd];B[ge];W[he];B[fb];W[gb];B[ga];W[ha]
;B[fa];W[ie];B[hb];W[hc];B[ia];W[gf];B[fe];W[gg];B[cd];W[dd]
;B[cc]
;W[dg]LB[cc:31][cd:29][cf:2][dc:12][dd:30][df:6][dg:32][ed:11][ee:1][ef:4][eg:13][fa:21]
[fb:17][fc:3][fd:10][fe:27][ff:5][fg:7][ga:19][gb:18][gc:8][gd:9][ge:15][gf:26][gg:28][ha:20]
[hb:23][hc:24][hd:14][he:16][ia:25][ie:22]
;B[de];W[ce];B[db];W[bd];B[bc];W[eb];B[ec];W[fh];B[eh];W[ei]
;B[dh];W[ch];B[gh];W[fi];B[di];W[gi];B[hi];W[ci];B[ad];W[be]
;B[ae];W[af];B[ac];W[hg];B[hh];W[ih];B[ii];W[ig];B[ib];W[ic]
;B[ha];W[cb];B[ca];W[bb];B[ba];W[aa];B[ab]
TB[aa][bb][cb][dc][dd][ei][fd][fh][fi][gi]
TW[ag][ah][ai][bf][bg][bh][bi][cg][hf][id][if]
)

edit: added a few line breaks in the really long line - i think that's just where i put the move #s on the stones in the middle anyways.

[Neil S]

E8 is dead but wasn't marked as such in the sgf record.

Final score, Black 25, White 11.5

[Stephen H]

Further analysis from Neil that he asked me to post:

(05:54:11 AM) The Nibor Ris: next question. Should we have stopped playing sooner? like, did i need to fill in the upper right with move 61 and 63?
(05:54:46 AM) The Nibor Ris: obviously clown's attempt at a foray with 64-66-68 was a wash (i lost three stones of area with my stones; but i captured his 3 stones)
(05:55:02 AM) Neil Stevens: C8 had no hope
(05:55:12 AM) Neil Stevens: you could have ignored that
(05:55:22 AM) The Nibor Ris: and what, just passed?
(05:55:28 AM) Neil Stevens: you had a guaranteed two eyes without it, since you can capture at E9 any time
(05:55:30 AM) Neil Stevens: yes you could have passed
(05:55:44 AM) Neil Stevens: he has no hope of making two eyes in that tiny space
(05:55:54 AM) Neil Stevens: also you can kill him in lower left
(05:55:58 AM) Neil Stevens: you play A3
(05:56:00 AM) The Nibor Ris: hah
(05:56:02 AM) Neil Stevens: he plays B4
(05:56:02 AM) The Nibor Ris: figures i missed that
(05:56:14 AM) The Nibor Ris: oooh, you're right
(05:56:17 AM) Neil Stevens: you play B3, C3, B1
(05:56:17 AM) The Nibor Ris: then he's dead dead
(05:56:22 AM) Neil Stevens: er, b2 not b1
(05:56:38 AM) Neil Stevens: otherwise there's nothing dangling
(05:56:39 AM) Neil Stevens: that I can see

[kokiri]

I think nngs is dead

Neil, what is the best client for igs? I'm back from a trip to my in laws on sunday and would like to get in on the pog go revolution

I think it's better to play human opposition where possible so that you don't get too accustomed to a bot's style

[Neil S]

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I think nngs is dead

Neil, what is the best client for igs? I'm back from a trip to my in laws on sunday and would like to get in on the pog go revolution

I think it's better to play human opposition where possible so that you don't get too accustomed to a bot's style

[/ QUOTE ]We should play at least one game, heh.

I'm a fan of qGo, but gGo is acceptable but I don't know its maintenance status.